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    What’s the best brand of truck? v.27645

    I need a truck, and admittedly don’t know much about the truck market.
    I need a full size bed and 4 wheel drive without a ton of fancy options. Also, I live in the northeast so models that are known for being easy rusters are out.
    Ford, Chevy, Dodge, GMC, or Toyota?

    Chime in, and learn me about truck models plz

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    New or used? I'd take a well taken care of 06-08 GMC/Chev over a new one.

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    Probably used. I’ve been pricing new trucks and they’re like 60k+ I don’t want that large of a payment.
    I’m building a house and I’m constantly needing to haul materials. It’s also a large piece of land with an unpaved driveway that will get buried in snow.
    Also, I’d drive it on the beach in sand in the summer. A small extended cab would be nice, but not necessary unless my wife and I decided to have a kid.

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    Definitely Honda, without a doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelersRule View Post
    Probably used. I’ve been pricing new trucks and they’re like 60k+ I don’t want that large of a payment.
    I’m building a house and I’m constantly needing to haul materials. It’s also a large piece of land with an unpaved driveway that will get buried in snow.
    Also, I’d drive it on the beach in sand in the summer. A small extended cab would be nice, but not necessary unless my wife and I decided to have a kid.
    Extended cabs are cool. Can put stuff inside the cab and still have a full size bed. I like the older trucks as they are a bit more simple and tougher. Go lean against an 06 and then an 08 0r newer and note the sheet metal flex of the newer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlazedTech View Post
    New or used? I'd take a well taken care of 06-08 GMC/Chev over a new one.
    Aren't those rusty years?

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    Tundra or F-150

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelersRule View Post
    Rust is a concern
    Seriously buy one from a non rust zone location...it'll be well worth the effort

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    F150 is aluminum......no rust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epic Bosnian View Post
    F150 is aluminum......no rust.
    The frame is steel still.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zo6pilot View Post
    The frame is steel still.
    Yes but with other trucks everything is steel. As far as rust goes, advantage f150.

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    F150, you can get what you want in a low option XL with 4wd. Get as new as you can afford. If you are willing to look outside of your area you can find a good deal.

    I would look for the fx4 package in a 5.0 or 3.5 EB. I love the 10 speed auto in mine but I have not researched to see if there is any longevity reports in regards to towing/hauling a lot. I use the bed a lot but I haven't pulled a trailer yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Epic Bosnian View Post
    F150 is aluminum......no rust.
    what year did the aluminum body panels start?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelersRule View Post
    what year did the aluminum body panels start?
    Iirc, 2015.

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    Just bought a '17 Sierra Denali with the 6.2 a few weeks ago



    Very happy so far but I'll be waiting for TransAmDriver to chime in to tell me this shitbox is going to fall apart before winter hits.

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    Also - this has been the biggest surprise with this truck and the 6.2 - thought I'd be getting maybe 20 or 21 hwy - this was after a fillup in Tomah on the way to Chicago


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    Don't get a Tundra unless you like 14mpg

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    So far, my Fords have been less of a headache with repairs and rust. Last 3 GM products have been a nightmare. Rams can be found cheaper though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HOTCIVIC View Post
    Also - this has been the biggest surprise with this truck and the 6.2 - thought I'd be getting maybe 20 or 21 hwy - this was after a fillup in Tomah on the way to Chicago

    My dad has an '18 w/ a 6.2 in it and he's been really impressed w/ the mileage out of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DANSBIRD View Post
    My dad has an '18 w/ a 6.2 in it and he's been really impressed w/ the mileage out of it.
    I've regularly seen anywhere from 24 - 27 mpg. I've put 6k miles on it since the end of July.

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    6.2 in my raptor gets around half that

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    Quote Originally Posted by HOTCIVIC View Post
    Just bought a '17 Sierra Denali with the 6.2 a few weeks ago



    Very happy so far but I'll be waiting for TransAmDriver to chime in to tell me this shitbox is going to fall apart before winter hits.
    excellent choice

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    Quote Originally Posted by PC PaiN View Post
    6.2 in my raptor gets around half that
    Until the 5.0 came along, all of the other Ford truck engines have always been really cringey on fuel economy. And in your case it probably has a lot to do with It being a raptor (big tires, aero-brick, lifted, etc).

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5.0THIS View Post
    Until the 5.0 came along, all of the other Ford truck engines have always been really cringey on fuel economy. And in your case it probably has a lot to do with It being a raptor (big tires, aero-brick, lifted, etc).
    I feel the ecoboost can probably hypermile better than the 5.0 but when you get on the gas or go above certain speeds and it drinks fuel like crazy.

    I have an older one and with a level and bigger tires if I let my wife drive on the highway and its like 15 mpg. If I set the cruise at 65 when we go to the beech it gets 20.....stock it used to get 22-23.

    I dont know where this magic gas mileage HotCivic is coming from it still takes a certain amount of horsepower to move a brick through the air. It would be interesting if he did a hand calculation. But I guess as I think about it I have heard similar stories from other people who own both newer fords and Chevy's.

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    We used to buy nothing but chevys. The last 3 we have bought for the business have been Ford (f450 v-10 gas, f250 7.3 gas, F650 PSD). I like the Fords 10x more than any of our chevys (current fleet of 8 trucks, 4 ford, 4 chevy)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PC PaiN View Post
    6.2 in my raptor gets around half that
    Raptors are cool though - my truck is pretty bland

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Griswold View Post
    excellent choice


    Quote Originally Posted by TreeGreenZ View Post
    I feel the ecoboost can probably hypermile better than the 5.0 but when you get on the gas or go above certain speeds and it drinks fuel like crazy.

    I have an older one and with a level and bigger tires if I let my wife drive on the highway and its like 15 mpg. If I set the cruise at 65 when we go to the beech it gets 20.....stock it used to get 22-23.

    I dont know where this magic gas mileage HotCivic is coming from it still takes a certain amount of horsepower to move a brick through the air. It would be interesting if he did a hand calculation. But I guess as I think about it I have heard similar stories from other people who own both newer fords and Chevy's.

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    I'm not doing anything shady with the mileage - I really DGAF that much at all. Even if it got 22 or 23 hwy I'd be thrilled with that. Just think it's cool how a big 6.2 can sip gas on the hwy. Around town it's definitely nothing to write home about. And I'm not knocking other brands either - just chiming in my experience with the Sierra has been great so far. F150s have always been great trucks and I've ridden in a couple new Rams and thought they were really nice too.

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    2011-2014 F150 with 5.0l fits the bill pretty well

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    Quote Originally Posted by TreeGreenZ View Post
    I feel the ecoboost can probably hypermile better than the 5.0 but when you get on the gas or go above certain speeds and it drinks fuel like crazy.

    I have an older one and with a level and bigger tires if I let my wife drive on the highway and its like 15 mpg. If I set the cruise at 65 when we go to the beech it gets 20.....stock it used to get 22-23.

    I dont know where this magic gas mileage HotCivic is coming from it still takes a certain amount of horsepower to move a brick through the air. It would be interesting if he did a hand calculation. But I guess as I think about it I have heard similar stories from other people who own both newer fords and Chevy's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HOTCIVIC View Post
    Raptors are cool though - my truck is pretty bland







    I'm not doing anything shady with the mileage - I really DGAF that much at all. Even if it got 22 or 23 hwy I'd be thrilled with that. Just think it's cool how a big 6.2 can sip gas on the hwy. Around town it's definitely nothing to write home about. And I'm not knocking other brands either - just chiming in my experience with the Sierra has been great so far. F150s have always been great trucks and I've ridden in a couple new Rams and thought they were really nice too.
    I wasn't meaning you were doing anything funny or even saying its incorrect I just dont understand how you push a vehicle that size, that fast and get that kind of mileage that is better than some diesels....

    Quote Originally Posted by DANSBIRD View Post
    Look here, newb. You don't talk to HotCivic that way.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 5.0THIS View Post
    Until the 5.0 came along, all of the other Ford truck engines have always been really cringey on fuel economy. And in your case it probably has a lot to do with It being a raptor (big tires, aero-brick, lifted, etc).
    I make myself feel better by telling myself mileage is similar to the lightning but it runs on regular thus saving me money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PC PaiN View Post
    I make myself feel better by telling myself mileage is similar to the lightning but it runs on regular thus saving me money.
    Until you said 6.2 in this thread, I thought I remembered you upgrading to a new Ecofailboost raptor. I could be thinking of plano buying one though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5.0THIS View Post
    Until you said 6.2 in this thread, I thought I remembered you upgrading to a new Ecofailboost raptor. I could be thinking of plano buying one though.
    Nah that’s Plano. I want to upgrade but not buying anything til house is finished. Just gonna show the ol girl some love and keep trucking. Pushing 160k on that pig now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PC PaiN View Post
    Pushing 160k on that pig now.
    I'm surprised your donkey hasnt punched it yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TreeGreenZ View Post
    I wasn't meaning you were doing anything funny or even saying its incorrect I just dont understand how you push a vehicle that size, that fast and get that kind of mileage that is better than some diesels....



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    Sounds like the majority consensus here is a Ford

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    I bought a new ram last year. Best equipped for the money from what I found. I like the idea of the ecoboost engines, but couldn't bring myself to trust it. Also working in collision repair I'm biased and wouldn't own an aluminum body truck. GM only puts the 6.2 in the top trims which was stupid. I have a jeep GC with the Hemi and 8spd and love it, so I went with ram that has pretty much the same drivetrain. We'll see how it holds up, but it does what I need it to and I really like it so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HOTCIVIC View Post
    I've regularly seen anywhere from 24 - 27 mpg. I've put 6k miles on it since the end of July.
    Lol your 6.2 in a 5000lb brick gets better mileage than mine in a 3900lb sedan. Even the little 3.6 in my Colorado only does about 23-24 on average.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NHRATA01 View Post
    Lol your 6.2 in a 5000lb brick gets better mileage than mine in a 3900lb sedan. Even the little 3.6 in my Colorado only does about 23-24 on average.
    I don't even get that kind of milage on my colorado. I never resetted my trip A odometer. It had 60k miles logged showing average mpg of 16. I was going to keep that trip A logged until some asshat service tech deleted my trip meter since the day I bought it. The mpg I got was from driving a mixture of highway and city. I regret not getting a fullsize. Its kind of dumb how the v6 gets out performed by v8 in mpg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NHRATA01 View Post
    Lol your 6.2 in a 5000lb brick gets better mileage than mine in a 3900lb sedan. Even the little 3.6 in my Colorado only does about 23-24 on average.
    It really doesn't make sense. Another road trip today - 23.5 mpg runnin 80 mph with a couple stops to send emails while the truck idled. Reset in Madison and averaged 25.5 mpg runnin 65-70 into Milwaukee. My 2008 5.3 Tahoe would usually get 17-18 mpg on these same trips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HOTCIVIC View Post
    Also - this has been the biggest surprise with this truck and the 6.2 - thought I'd be getting maybe 20 or 21 hwy - this was after a fillup in Tomah on the way to Chicago


    Have you verified that at the pump? I've never seen a 6.2 get that kind of mileage.

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    Yeah, I don't care who the manufacturer is, you need to hand calculate your mileage to know what it's really doing. We track ours with fuelly. You can also look at what others are getting and whittle it down by engine and trim level.

    https://www.fuelly.com/car

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    Quote Originally Posted by PC PaiN View Post
    Don’t give enough shits to hand track my mileage. Display is close enough
    This. I reset my trip before I leave the gas station parking lot. If it's not accurate then oh well. I really don't care. Happy with the truck.

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    Whenever I get a new vehicle I hand calculate the first few tanks and figure out how optimistic gauge can be and then I just subtract that from the reading going forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HOTCIVIC View Post
    I really don't care. Happy with the truck.
    Im sure transamdriver will be along soon to tell you why you aren’t really happy with it and why you should trade it for some pile of shit tundra because his family has good luck with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChillPhatCat View Post
    Whenever I get a new vehicle I hand calculate the first few tanks and figure out how optimistic gauge can be and then I just subtract that from the reading going forward.
    Not a bad idea - if I can drum up the care I'll do it.

    Quote Originally Posted by 5.0THIS View Post
    Im sure transamdriver will be along soon to tell you why you aren’t really happy with it and why you should trade it for some pile of shit tundra because his family has good luck with them.
    Oh it's comin.

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    Sometimes I like to play the game of fill up the car at the gas station on top of the hill and coast down it... I’ve gotten 55 mpg on my Forester that way... for 3 miles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChillPhatCat View Post
    Sometimes I like to play the game of fill up the car at the gas station on top of the hill and coast down it... I’ve gotten 55 mpg on my Forester that way... for 3 miles.
    I pulled 52 mpg in my Malibu behind a semi today.

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    I had a lifted 78 Bronco that maybe got 8 mpg. swapped over to a 2 barrel and gain like 2 or 3 MPG. Took that shit off because it wouldnt lift the tires anymore in grass! Miss that granny gear!

    My 93 Lightning would get like 12. I miss that truck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mogs01gt View Post
    I had a lifted 78 Bronco that maybe got 8 mpg. swapped over to a 2 barrel and gain like 2 or 3 MPG. Took that shit off because it wouldnt lift the tires anymore in grass! Miss that granny gear!

    My 93 Lightning would get like 12. I miss that truck!
    I love the first gen Lightning. Well I love everythng except the ugly wheels Ford put on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5.0THIS View Post
    Im sure transamdriver will be along soon to tell you why you aren’t really happy with it and why you should trade it for some pile of shit tundra because his family has good luck with them.
    Lol as much as a hater as he is it probably pales in comparison to you .

    That said a Tundra is great if you don't mind 3 electronics 2-3 Gen behind the rest and 15mpg.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by TreeGreenZ View Post
    Lol as much as a hater as he is it probably pales in comparison to you .

    That said a Tundra is great if you don't mind 3 electronics 2-3 Gen behind the rest and 15mpg.....

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    I’ve always wondered if I just haven’t been inside a high enough trim level yet or something because anyone that I’ve rode with that had one the inside is boooorrrrriiiinnnnngggggg

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    Quote Originally Posted by HOTCIVIC View Post
    It really doesn't make sense. Another road trip today - 23.5 mpg runnin 80 mph with a couple stops to send emails while the truck idled. Reset in Madison and averaged 25.5 mpg runnin 65-70 into Milwaukee. My 2008 5.3 Tahoe would usually get 17-18 mpg on these same trips.
    My leveled '11 Silverado can maybe get 18 driving 60mph on flat land.

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