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    Electric turbos

    Remember when the idea of "electricc turbos" were a joke? Basically an RV vent fan hooked up to the car's 12v system, only bought by highschool ricers to slap on their 95 Camry? Well, apparently they make actual electric turbochargers now with modern 48V brushless motors that make actual real power.

    And what better group of ragtag peckerwood tuners to try it out than Cleetus McFarland and friends?

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    I bought my parents a 48v leaf blower and thought about this. It's much more powerful than I expected.

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    Wouldnt that be a supercharger?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 70Chevelle View Post
    Wouldnt that be a supercharger?
    I agree. Probably should be something like Electrocharger or Electric-supercharger if you play with the same words the way turbocharger got its name. Since, what we call a turbocharger is a turbo-supercharger derived from turbine powered supercharger.

    But electrocharger sounds stupid too.

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    It doesnt have a turbine stage so it's not a turbocharger. It has a compressor stage so an e-compressor is the best 1 word name for it.

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    Also you will be seeing these as electric hybrid performance vehicles become more common. Supercars makers are looking like 200+V systems which allows for very high performance / weight devices.

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    you pedantic fucks

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScotWithOne_R/T View Post
    you pedantic fucks


    I wonder how quick these would drain the car battery on a road course.

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    bring on the axial turbos.

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    Roadkill hooked a bunch of gas powered leafblowers up to a Monza years ago...

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    The twin turbo kit I bought for my Camaro has oiless turbos, never dealt with this kind but they supposedly work great.

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    Mercedes already has one. Dodge is bringing one on line now too.

    The echarger does the initial work to bring the turbos online and then shuts off.

    We can now use a pretty darn big turbo on small displacement motors without perceptible lag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ill deuce View Post
    bring on the axial turbos.

    What you running under the hood?

    MAN AR140-RG71-4.

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    So this is really a thing now? I remember when it was a joke like the Tornado and blinker fluid.

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    the crazy thing is, the tornado actually works on certain vehicles. usually older wet flow systems with crap manifolds to help with fuel suspension.

    it's like how spacers work on carbs and old tbi systems but do jack shit on an LS or whatever.

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    Electric turbos are apparently pretty big in the brz/frs crowd. And leaf blowers don’t have enough pressure to do much.

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    https://www.tfltruck.com/2019/11/no-...stead-of-a-v8/

    The concept behind this new engine is very similar to what Mercedes-Benz is using in many of their luxury vehicles as well. Mercedes is using an electrically-powered turbine wheel in addition to a traditional exhaust turbocharger turbine to help eliminate any power lag. The Mercedes system is also a mild electric hybrid with an electric motors that is sandwiched between their 3.0-liter straight-six engine and the transmission. This electric system also eliminates the serpentine belt. All engine accessories are powered electrically. This makes the overall engine shorter and able to fit under the hood of more vehicles.
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    All of the F1 teams have been using electric hybrid power to keep the turbo spun up for a few years now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr WeatherBoner View Post
    All of the F1 teams have been using electric hybrid power to keep the turbo spun up for a few years now.
    Yeah..... and those turbos cost more than your car. They are fundamentally different.

    They are pretty fascinating though. The shaft runs through the engine from the turbine to the compressor, and a motor is looped in between to help spool the turbo but also to act as a waste gate, slowing the turbo down to control boost while generating electricity to be used elsewhere on the track.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Locker537 View Post
    Roadkill hooked a bunch of gas powered leafblowers up to a Monza years ago...
    while that one was fun, the boost caboose was their best retarded project they need to go back to shit like THAT. not meh, let's fix up another pos and see if it can drive to X location.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwollHottie View Post
    while that one was fun, the boost caboose was their best retarded project they need to go back to shit like THAT. not meh, let's fix up another pos and see if it can drive to X location.
    I wish shows like Monster Garage would make a comeback. but without all the retarded manufactured drama. just show the design and build/problem-solving process. basically give Colin Furze a Hollywood budget, an abandoned airstrip, and access to military grade explosives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScotWithOne_R/T View Post
    I wish shows like Monster Garage would make a comeback. but without all the retarded manufactured drama. just show the design and build/problem-solving process. basically give Colin Furze a Hollywood budget, an abandoned airstrip, and access to military grade explosives.
    did you see the roadkill boost caboose episode? that's some epic redneck engineering. turbos are too complex but we don't want to waste HP running a supercharger. solution: use another engine to run the supercharger for the engine of the car itself, and tow the other engine running the supercharger behind the car while driving.

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    FRS dyno with one. They bolt right up to the stock intake piping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speed_demon24 View Post
    FRS dyno with one. They bolt right up to the stock intake piping.

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    Thats unmetered air, talk about running lean!
    Im assuming the 171 was stock right? I'd still be concerned with the amount of amperage its pulling from the cars charging system.
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    It's in line with the AIS and there is a MAF sensor, so it's not unmetered. It also had a wideband O2 so it can control to the desired fuel air.

    But still really dumb to just throw stuff on an engine and not tune it. It all relies on the knock sensors working well to pull enough spark out to not knock its brains out. Also none of the control tables are going to be scaled to look up values that make sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speed_demon24 View Post
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    From 171 hp to 217 hp with a turbo? Meh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich_S View Post
    From 171 hp to 217 hp with a turbo? Meh.
    yeah, a 26% increase is pretty tame for a turbo setup. I would expect 50% or more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich_S View Post
    From 171 hp to 217 hp with a turbo? Meh.
    1 pound of boost? Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrispyCharger View Post
    It's in line with the AIS and there is a MAF sensor, so it's not unmetered. It also had a wideband O2 so it can control to the desired fuel air.

    But still really dumb to just throw stuff on an engine and not tune it. It all relies on the knock sensors working well to pull enough spark out to not knock its brains out. Also none of the control tables are going to be scaled to look up values that make sense.
    Most of the tuners people use these days probably make it more prone to failure .

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    not a bad gain for a 200 crank hp engine with minimal psi.

    the 55-60 lbs of torque is nice too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speed_demon24 View Post
    Most of the tuners people use these days probably make it more prone to failure .
    With great power comes less reliability!

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