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    That car that started the Pro-Touring craze is up for sale.

    Mark Stielow's first Pro-Touring build from 25 years ago. Still looks amazing. This build is so old, it doesn't even have an LS. lol




    https://www.hemmings.com/auction/1969-chevrolet-camaro

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    I mean, it's cool but it's already bid way over what I would ever even consider paying for it. The "history" of it means next to nothing to everyone but a very, very small subsection of people. With that said, it's very nice.

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    cool stuff...great for the collector world.
    i always drooled over "the mule"

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    Bad Penny was neat.

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    Stielow always has built some of the best pro touring camaros out there.

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    Cool car but lol @ $81K.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich_S View Post
    Cool car but lol @ $81K.
    IIRC his new ones usually are over 200k builds.

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    I loved Bad Penny. Who had that on here, before he sold it?

    Last edited by jeeplaw; 11-14-2019 at 07:37 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeeplaw View Post
    I loved Bad Penny. Who had that on here, before he sold it?

    Steve somethingoranother

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    Still can't build that car for $81k

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    Won by Steve1968LS2, who built Bad Penny.
    Last edited by silverSS; 11-14-2019 at 09:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich_S View Post
    Cool car but lol @ $81K.
    You couldnt build that car for 81k at today's costs. Maybe if you already had the drive train.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverSS View Post
    Won by Steve1968LS2, who built Bad Penny.
    that's pretty fucking cool...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JUSTINASS View Post
    that's pretty fucking cool...
    I remember all the Bad Penny pics back in the day

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    I thought it was great he had it on a road course

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    Quote Originally Posted by GldRush98 View Post
    I remember all the Bad Penny pics back in the day
    same...i found him on some pro touring board years ago and followed his builds.
    followed a couple of other insane builds also...one was a 67 nova...followed that build for like two years.

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    I didn't realize one car started pro touring. Still looks great after 25 years.

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    I thought this was the car that started the Pro-Touring craze

    https://www.streetmusclemag.com/feat...e-whole-story/

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    Quote Originally Posted by FASTFATBOY View Post
    I thought this was the car that started the Pro-Touring craze

    https://www.streetmusclemag.com/feat...e-whole-story/

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    That's a race car, not a pro-touring car. I see what you're saying but to me, that's more of an all out race car instead of a road/track car that could be daily driven.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gearhead SS View Post
    That's a race car, not a pro-touring car. I see what you're saying but to me, that's more of an all out race car instead of a road/track car that could be daily driven.
    Not only is it a race car, its primarily a land speed car, designed to go fast in a straight line

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    Pretty neat Steve bought it. I loved Bad Penny.

    I also love Big Red Camaro, but like others said... it's an all-out race car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nathan View Post
    Bad Penny was neat.
    The owner of BP is who bought it. Edit, late to the party lol
    Last edited by SIK02SS; 11-18-2019 at 09:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FASTFATBOY View Post
    I thought this was the car that started the Pro-Touring craze

    https://www.streetmusclemag.com/feat...e-whole-story/

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    No, that car started the Cruise Control Nationals!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 70Chevelle View Post
    Not only is it a race car, its primarily a land speed car, designed to go fast in a straight line
    Wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by 70Chevelle View Post
    Not only is it a race car, its primarily a land speed car, designed to go fast in a straight line
    Big Red was soooo not designed to go straight.

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    Yeah I think Big Red started it IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by windham View Post
    Yeah I think Big Red started it IMO.
    The thing is, Stielow is credited for coining the term and I think he did that while building the white Camaro. According to a 2010 Hot Rod article, Big Red is a full tube chassis that happens to have some '69 Camaro sheet metal on it. I think that's why the white car is credited for starting Pro Touring, because it wasn't a full on race car and was still a very driveable street car.

    Here's the article from 2010. it mentions both cars.

    https://www.hotrod.com/articles/1008...f-pro-touring/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gearhead SS View Post
    The thing is, Stielow is credited for coining the term and I think he did that while building the white Camaro. According to a 2010 Hot Rod article, Big Red is a full tube chassis that happens to have some '69 Camaro sheet metal on it. I think that's why the white car is credited for starting Pro Touring, because it wasn't a full on race car and was still a very driveable street car.

    Here's the article from 2010. it mentions both cars.

    https://www.hotrod.com/articles/1008...f-pro-touring/
    Well I can agree with that line of thought.

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    Here is a link from '08 that links scans from a '98 CHP article

    http://lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php?p=184461

    It actually has some roots back into the early '80's when Lil John Buttera built the Novette, a across between a early '60's Nova and a '84 Corvette suspension

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeeplaw View Post
    I loved Bad Penny. Who had that on here, before he sold it?

    Bad Penny was awesome!!

    Didn't he build a pewter one before or after this one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FirehawkNS View Post
    Bad Penny was awesome!!

    Didn't he build a pewter one before or after this one?
    almost certain the Pewter 4th gen was before Bad Penny

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverSS View Post
    almost certain the Pewter 4th gen was before Bad Penny
    yep

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    he also bought / built this one somewhere along the way.

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    A '67 and '68 are nice... but a '69 is just tits.

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