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    That is so awesome man. It really gives me chills to see people really show respect to one of our service guys. I wish I could be a fly on the wall and witness the reveal.

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    I worked a little tonight getting the old inner fenderwells out and getting the rest of the rusted trunk floor cut off. I hope to finish that up this weekend and get my templates finished up for the trunk so I can fabricate the trunk and rear seat area.

    But in the meantime I powdercoated the intake and put the fuel rails on it. I'm going to run it over to Joel at HRT Performance to have him do the AN lines and all.


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    More updates! I got the new engine mounts and got the mockup engine and trans sitting in the car with the intake and all:


    And then I finally got the old inner fenders chopped out and ground down and the new ones tacked in:



    And then hit the front fenders with the grinder and found this mess. The fenders looked good from the back, but huge globs of bondo hid the horrors from the front. Ouch. Looks like more work I didn't count on, yet again.


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    I had some fun tonight! After much careful planning and measuring, I welded up some braces for the fuel cell to mount to and got it sitting in the car. I mounted it so it will sit under the floorboard and I can use a 45deg filler neck and fill kit to mount at the stock location. I'm thinking of going with the Jaz kit with the 2-1/2" external cap, but I'm not sure if it will fit in the stock location. I guess I can always cut and trim to make it fit, not like anything on the car is stock anyway.

    Here it is, though.


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    Looking good. I bet it will be gorgeous when done.

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    No pictures, but just wanted to give you all a quick update. We're working on the templates for the rear trunk and seat area. We've got them almost finished up. Shawn's brothers are getting some sheetmetal so we can fab them up and get the trunk in the car.

    Also did some more work getting the front fenders cleaned up. The passenger side is good and we're going to use it.

    The driver's side, however........is TOAST. I got to the point where I was about to weld in some new metal for the hole I found, but decided to do some further grinding to see if there was anything else. What I found was about 1/4" of bondo and a severe smack in the front part of the fender that was VERY well hidden with bondo. They even smoothed the BACK of the fender to make it look ok.

    So if anyone has one standard driver's fender we can use, or two RS fenders, PLEASE LET ME KNOW!

    We're also going to be using Scorpion coating on the underside and firewall of the car. I have a new business starting up once the Camaro is finished, Triangle Specialty Coatings, and I'm going to be the Raleigh area OEM for Scorpion, so I am going to colormatch the undercoating and then spray the firewall black. Should turn out really cool and show off what Scorpion is all about! Hopefully I'll get all my training done and my dealer package in so I can start on the car as soon as the trunk is finished up!

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    Another no picture update.

    I'm cleaning up all my work so far and getting some of the body worked on. The firewall smoothing is done and I'm working on getting the floorboards and trunk floor straight.

    Ever since Shawn got home the donations have dried up and I am almost out of money on the car. I've used up all of the money I had saved for my own cars and just going day to day on small powdercoating work and whatever I can scrounge up by selling any parts I have lying around the shop. I still have a ton of parts and work needed, so if anyone here has a shop or knows a shop that might want to help or ANYTHING please let me know.

    So with hope there is someone out there who has something lying around that they might be able to help with, here is the parts needed list again.

    Monetary donations always welcomed!
    Trunk lid
    Standard driver's fender (or both RS front fenders)
    Bumpers
    RS headlight parts
    Hidden wiper motor
    Entire windshield wiper setup
    Rear interior panels
    All the little trim pieces from the dash
    LS1 shorty headers
    LS1 T56 bellhousing
    LS1 T56 4th gear/input shaft
    LS1 T56 6th gear
    LS1 front plate
    Performance LS1 camshaft
    Steering wheel
    New windshield and rear glass
    Someone to fabricate the trunk floors and fix the floorboards!
    And maybe someone who can do some body work?

    And probably a ton of other stuff I'm forgetting. I'll update the post as I remember stuff. Feel free to PM me, post up, or send me an email to webmaster@patriotdream.org

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    I dont wanna sound like a asshole or anything but since this car is for him, and he's back from over sea's, why cant he kick in some $$ to get it finished up??

    I know I would if it were me

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    He still has no idea I'm building it for him.

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    Originally posted by 4birdman
    He still has no idea I'm building it for him.
    Ohhhh, okay well that might have something to do with it

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    Sorry for the long delay in updates. Here is an update on the progress:

    We ran out of money on the project and the donations dried up. I am in the process of searching for a shop close to me that might be interested in finishing up the car. I am selling my 74 AMX to finish up the Camaro. I also started up a new business to make money for the car. All of my pay that I make in my business will be going to finish the Camaro. EVERY CENT of my pay will go to finishing the car. I WILL finish the car.

    If anyone knows of a shop that might be interested, please let me know. I will not be checking the boards much because I am SWAMPED with my business, so please email me at bryan@tscoating.com or webmaster@patriotdream.org if you want!

    Also, I know I'm not a sponsor on some of these boards, but please forgive me for this plug. I am trying like hell to scrounge together the cash to finish the Camaro, so every bit counts. If anyone needs any industrial coatings, I am now the Triangle area Scorpion OEM and installer and also sell a DIY kit called Al's Liner for truck bed liners/undercoating/etc. If anyone wants a DIY kit, or would like me to install a Scorpion spray-in bed liner in their truck, please visit our site at http://www.tscoating.com and let me know.

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    sorry to hear about the snag and good luck getting everything together


    does he still not know?

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    Still doesn't know.

    Since it has been forever and I don't want you guys to think it was dead.

    We had a little change of plans. The project was dragging on and on, and really was going nowhere. We still had a lot of money to spend on the LS1/T56 swap and then the guy who had donated the T56 sold it out from under us. Rather than spend $1k on a trans that needed a rebuild, and then have to buy all the expensive swap parts, we've decided to sell off the LS1 and T56 parts and go with an old-school 327 and Super T-10 4-spd.

    A local serviceman heard we needed an engine, so he gave us a complete running 350 and 700R4. HRT Performance is going to turn it into one mean little 327. We sold off some of the LS1 parts and bought a rebuilt Super T-10 4-spd that is headed our way now. A guy came by the house to pick up some parts and heard we decided to go to a 4-spd, so he gave us a 4-spd crossmember and driveshaft.

    All we need now for the swap is a 4-spd bellhousing and the shifter and linkage. All we really need for the engine is an oil pan, good intake and a good carburetor.

    We are headed in the right direction and can see real progress for the first time in a while. And do not worry, any sponsor donated parts we have will be sold and a comparable replacement for the new drivetrain will be bought from the sponsor. We will make sure all of our sponsors are taken care of and will do everything we can to make this project come to fruition!

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    Headed to the shop tomorrow for the build!

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    Crappy cell pic, it came to work and I took a pic before I took it over to HRT.

    286HR Magnum cam, springs, locks and retainers thanks to Comp!

    And yes, my office is a mess.

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    Got the new axle in the car finally! 12-bolt with 3.55 gears and an Auburn posi, new axle shafts, etc. I converted it to LS1 brakes, too.





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    Transmission is here! Super T-10 4-spd, SPEC traded out the T56 clutch and flywheel they donated for a ST-10 clutch and flywheel, and Hogshead Trans Am parts donated a bell housing. I'm working on Hurst to see if they'll hook us up with a shifter and linkage, should find out tomorrow.



    We had a good week with the project. ARP donated all the engine bolts, Flowmaster donated a complete exhaust system, Harland Sharp donated a set of 1.6 roller rockers, EPN donated a set of stainless 2.02/1.60 valves, and I'm working on a few header companies to see what we can score there.

    IT IS COMING TOGETHER!

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    Nice looking project..

    I'm wondering.. are you building this for a fund raiser? Just curious as to why/how you're getting everything donated

    Can't wait to see it finished.

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    New clutch is here! SPEC traded out our T56 they donated for a new Stage 2 clutch and billet steel flywheel.



    Doug Thorley also hooked us up with a set of longtube headers, we'll post pics as soon as they get here!

    I'm building it for my bro-in-law. He was in Iraq for over a year and I wanted to do something nice for him.

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    More goodies! Got some main, rod, and head bolts and some 3/8" studs that ARP donated to the project!


    Also got in some stainless 2.02/1.60 valves that Engine Parts Network donated to the project!

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    awesome project! I'm glad to hear its now moving forward at a great pace

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    And more goodies!

    Got a 4-spd bellhousing and fork that Hogshead Firebird and Trans Am Parts donated!


    Also got a set of 1.6 roller rockers that Harland Sharp donated!

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    awesome stuff

    So these companies are donating the stuff because it's for a guy who was in iraq? just wondering

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    Yep, I've just been calling up and telling them I'm building a car for my bro-in-law who is in the Army and was in Iraq when I started the project and they are all more than heppy to help out.

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    Damn.. You should probably post a consolidated list of supporting vendors somewhere in the tech boards. I know I'd support them first if/when I need parts again

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    http://www.patriotdream.org

    Check it out, there's a full list there!



    Got a new oil pan thanks to 1badchevelle on the pro-touring.com board!


    And a full exhaust system donated by Flowmaster!

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    And we officially have everything we need for the engine! We hope to have it done in the next few weeks. The transmission is done and ready, now once the engine is here we'll be set to go!

    Today we got a set of forged .03 327 pistons that Federal-Mogul/Speed-Pro donated to the project!



    Now all we need is to find someone to do the final metalwork and fabrication on the car. Install the rear trunk floor, finish smoothing the firewall, repair the window channel, and weld everything snug and tight and get it ready for bodywork and paint. A local friend of mine is going to do the paint and body, but he doesn't do fabrication. He said if someone can finish the final fabrication, he can get the car in paint and do a bunch of cool stuff to the car. He does amazing work, so I'm very excited about having him take care of the car!

    If we can find someone to do the metalwork, this thing will be done by Christmas!

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    Originally posted by 4birdman
    And we officially have everything we need for the engine! We hope to have it done in the next few weeks. The transmission is done and ready, now once the engine is here we'll be set to go!

    Today we got a set of forged .03 327 pistons that Federal-Mogul/Speed-Pro donated to the project!



    Now all we need is to find someone to do the final metalwork and fabrication on the car. Install the rear trunk floor, finish smoothing the firewall, repair the window channel, and weld everything snug and tight and get it ready for bodywork and paint. A local friend of mine is going to do the paint and body, but he doesn't do fabrication. He said if someone can finish the final fabrication, he can get the car in paint and do a bunch of cool stuff to the car. He does amazing work, so I'm very excited about having him take care of the car!

    If we can find someone to do the metalwork, this thing will be done by Christmas!

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    Yep, donate@patiotdream.org is e paypal addy. Thanks!


    Many thanks to rlyfst1 on the camaros.net board for donating a carb, and then calling Edelbrock to convince them to donate an intake and rebuild and respec the carb!

    We've now got an Edelbrock carb and RPM Air Gap intake thanks to Lane (and Edelbrock, too!)


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    MSD really took care of us with the new engine setup. They donated a Pro-Billet distributor, a Blaster coil, a set of Superconductor plug wires, and a Digital-6 Plus ignition box!


    We also found out that the hood hinges we had for the car were for some totally different car and didn't fit the fenders. Mark68 on the pro-touring.com board heard about it and sent us some hinges for the car! Thanks, Mark!

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    More goodies! Doug Thorley headers donated a set of ceramic coated low clearance headers.


    And I also bought a set of brand new front fenders and extension from a guy on Craigslist. Very good guy to deal with and we're talking now about getting him to do the metal work on the car so we can get that finished up. I'm still looking for someone to either donate the metal work or maybe trade for some truck bed liners, interior liners, or even a few garage/shop floors from my business, but right now it looks like he is the front runner if I can't get some other deal worked out on a trade or donation.

    So for the first time ever, here is a pic of the car with sheetmetal on it! All I need is a trunk lid and I've got all the sheetmetal I need.




    And Satatic, we're going to be installing the DSE minitubs.

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    comin along nicely

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    Did a little bit of work this afternoon. In my quest to make this the quietest car possible, I am spraying the inner fenders with Scorpion. Since you can increase the sound insulation qualities with some rubber crumb, I threw some rubber bits in it for the wheel side. I want to keep a smoother look for the part in the engine bay, but I figured it would have a rough texture in the underside where you won't really see it. That way it'll help quiet down any road noise that might come out of that area. Once I get the stuff that Second Skin donated on the interior, and have the entire undercarriage, firewall, and wheelwells sprayed with a combination of Scorpion and Al's Liner, this thing is going top be completely rust proof and super quiet!


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    Very cool, I can't wait to drive it. No one has ever done anything so nice for me before.

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    Got some more good stuff. Hurst donated a shifter and install kit for the Super T-10!



    Now I'm off to watch my Phils win the World Series!

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    Sorry for the long delay, guys! I'll have some more pictures soon.

    I gave Shawn the car for Christmas and he LOVED it. He can't stop talking about it and is unbelievably thankful to everyone who helped out.

    He immediately made some phone calls and found someone to do the metalwork on the car, and last Saturday we took it over and dropped it off to get the work done.

    The engine should be done by the end of the month and the body should be done shortly thereafter. Then the paint comes and the car starts assembly!

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    Sorry for the long delay, guys. Work has been a bit slow on it, but it is coming along. The guy doing the metal work had some other work he had to get out, but he's been working on the Camaro as he has time to. He's finished up a ton of it. The trunk floor is fabbed and installed, the rear has been minitubbed 3", the rear seat area has been all fixed up, and he's now getting into finishing up the final welds, cleaning up some of the welds, filling in some seams, fixing a bunch of the gaps and things on the car, and basically getting it ready for me to start getting it ready for paint once it gets back to my shop.

    Here are the pics!






    And a picture I forgot to share with you from when I gave the car to Shawn

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    thanks for the update!!

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    any more updates??

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    Sorry for the long delay guys, took a long time to get it back from metal work.

    Shawn and I ground down the entire interior and trunk and got it in primer. We worked a little on the underside, but need to do a bunch more and spray some primer on it.

    Kirker Automotive donated all the primers, clears, and Viper Red paint for the car.

    Hopefully we can find someone to do the body work and paint for us, that's the last thing we need before we start assembling it! We're going to continue to try and do the body ourselves in case we can't find anyone, butwe could get it done a lot faster if we found someone.

    Pics of it primed and on the AutoTwirler rotisserie!















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    more than 2 years and you are still plugging away....good for you.

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    Very nice work on the entire project.

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    Wow. I saw it was updated and thought it would be complete. I should know better though. I have had mine since 93 and it is no where near restored.

    Ofcourse I have been broke most of my life since 93. I will have it done one day.

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    You're better off than me. I've been broke since 1979.

    I turn 30 tomorrow.


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    Originally posted by 4birdman
    You're better off than me. I've been broke since 1979.

    I turn 30 tomorrow.

    HA! I turn 35 in February.

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    Another quick update! A guy on the FBN board has donated all the body and paint work! We're going to take the car down to him in the next few weeks. He's going to do all the finish welding, clean up all the body, straighten it, and spray primer and paint. It'll be ready for assembly when it gets back!

    The end is in sight!

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    Originally posted by 4birdman
    Another quick update! A guy on the FBN board has donated all the body and paint work! We're going to take the car down to him in the next few weeks. He's going to do all the finish welding, clean up all the body, straighten it, and spray primer and paint. It'll be ready for assembly when it gets back!

    The end is in sight!
    AWESOME!

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    My camera was being stupid and wouldn't take pics when I got it to the shop, but here it is heading out! The guy working on it is going to send pics as he gets progress done!


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    More pics from Harry and Spencer!













    And the two jokers doing the work.

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    At this rate, Ern is gonna have his TNX done before this Camaro is

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    Are you going to, or have you already, sent these pictures to the folks at the companies who donated parts? I'm sure they'd appreciate it..

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    Got the one step forward two steps back thing going on.

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    Sorry everyone, I didn't mean to be scarce. Things have been crazy around here, my wife and I just had our second kid last Friday, so the last 9 months have been a blur. Shawn and I have been working on getting things together on the car so we can finish it up in time for show season next year hopefully. We're all hoping that by that time, he'll get a transfer to Ft. Bragg so they'll be closer to us and we can hit the shows together too!

    Anyway, here's an update. The rear quarter panel needs a new skin. I saw that it was kind of out, but I'm not a body man so I wasn't quite sure. Harry saw it and said he'd rather replace it to be sure it looks perfect. We're having some new Goodmark panels headed his way (quarter skin and trunk kid) so he can get those squared away.
    Here's some pictures of it. You can see the difference in where the body line should be and where it is now.



    They also finished up some rust repair on the door window channel.


    I'm hopefully going to be picking up the rebuilt ST-10 4-spd from Tick Performance soon, and hoping the engine will be finished soon. Hey was working on it, but I haven't been by to check the progress recently. I'll hopefully find something out there soon too.

    We are also going to be rolling out a new webpage soon. Now that the car was given to Shawn, we're going to take the focus from building it for Shawn and more towards trying to use it to raise money for a disabled veterans foundation. I'll keep everyone posted on that front. Should be relatively soon.

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    just an FYI, Goodmark body parts aren't that great (hard to align, etc). Found that out with my '67. Ended up just using the original body parts that were on it and just metal filled gaps and reworking them (well, the body guys did ).

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    The car is pretty much 90% Goodmark stuff, they are sponsoring the car.

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