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    2019 Chevrolet Silverado: What to Expect From the New Full-Size Truck

    Chevrolet Truck’s centennial celebration might end with a full-size bang. Not long after Chevrolet starts its second century of building trucks, the next-generation Silverado will make its debut. Likely arriving for the 2019 model year, the next Silverado will up its game in performance and capability after a generation that never really wowed us. During […]
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    Expect not to find any cheap 6.2l

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus View Post
    Expect not to find any cheap 6.2l
    heaven forbid.

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    Better get with the times, and put the 10spd in there.
    8spd has been a shitshow since day one,with no real fix in sight.


    Huge reason I'm not considering a Silverado. That, and the $12,000 price for the 6.2 option.




    Edit: 5.3 to be "downsized, and maybe add turbos"?

    How about turbo the 4.3,dipshits! 5.3 is fine as it is.
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    10 speed auto will be in everything soon. Don't expect changes to the 6.2 availability.

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    Hopefully the refresh brings a nicer interior......finally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Potent68 View Post
    Hopefully the refresh brings a nicer interior......finally.
    I don't mind the Silverado interior. LTZ/High Country is very nice inside. WAY better than the previous gen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No F-bdy Bs View Post
    Better get with the times, and put the 10spd in there.
    8spd has been a shitshow since day one,with no real fix in sight.


    Huge reason I'm not considering a Silverado. That, and the $12,000 price for the 6.2 option.




    Edit: 5.3 to be "downsized, and maybe add turbos"?

    How about turbo the 4.3,dipshits! 5.3 is fine as it is.
    The 5.3 gets shit all over, and then some, by the Ford 2.7 turbo. It makes for a slower truck; it's shittier at towing; it gets worse gas mileage.

    It's a dinosaur that absolutely needs updating.

    The Dodge 5.7 has the same problem with the Ford 2.7.

    The 3.5 really wasn't a gamechanger; the 2.7 absolutely is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hebrew Barrister View Post
    The 5.3 gets shit all over, and then some, by the Ford 2.7 turbo. It makes for a slower truck; it's shittier at towing; it gets worse gas mileage.

    It's a dinosaur that absolutely needs updating.

    The Dodge 5.7 has the same problem with the Ford 2.7.

    The 3.5 really wasn't a gamechanger; the 2.7 absolutely is.
    Gets shit all over? lol

    The 5.3 can tow up to 11k pounds. So what's that, 100 less than the 2.7s max rating?

    What does the 2.7 get, real world, for fuel mileage? The 5.3 gets 24+ highway. I averaged around 19-21 in my last 5.3 with a good mix of highway/city driving. I'm a little worse in my current truck with the 4x4 and the Duratracs though.

    I'm sure it is slower but is it really a drastic difference? They're trucks, no one is buying them for drag racing. They're buying them more for the first 2 reason than the 0-60.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gearhead SS View Post
    Gets shit all over? lol

    The 5.3 can tow up to 11k pounds. So what's that, 100 less than the 2.7s max rating?

    What does the 2.7 get, real world, for fuel mileage? The 5.3 gets 24+ highway. I averaged around 19-21 in my last 5.3 with a good mix of highway/city driving. I'm a little worse in my current truck with the 4x4 and the Duratracs though.

    I'm sure it is slower but is it really a drastic difference? They're trucks, no one is buying them for drag racing. They're buying them more for the first 2 reason than the 0-60.
    All of this. The 5.3 is a great engine for most truck buyers. The 2.7 is a fuel pig in the real world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5.0THIS View Post
    All of this. The 5.3 is a great engine for most truck buyers. The 2.7 is a fuel pig in the real world.
    Funny how GM doesn't agree with you.

    The 2.7's don't seem to have real world gas mileage problems. That was just the 3.5, and even then, not everyone. Mine averaged 18.5 on a combined city / hwy commute.

    I can, however, inform you that Dodge's scat pack fuel ratings are nothing more than wishful thinking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gearhead SS View Post
    Gets shit all over? lol

    The 5.3 can tow up to 11k pounds. So what's that, 100 less than the 2.7s max rating?

    What does the 2.7 get, real world, for fuel mileage? The 5.3 gets 24+ highway. I averaged around 19-21 in my last 5.3 with a good mix of highway/city driving. I'm a little worse in my current truck with the 4x4 and the Duratracs though.

    I'm sure it is slower but is it really a drastic difference? They're trucks, no one is buying them for drag racing. They're buying them more for the first 2 reason than the 0-60.
    All of this.

    Small cubes +boost = mediocre mpg.
    5.3 is still very much a capable engine.

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    love my 5.3 - 6 speed...i wished i had gotten 6.2 because they do get about the same gas mileage...
    however after driving my father-n-laws 6.2 - 8 speed, it has horrible shifting issues...
    you can def tell the power difference - but not something I worry about with a 4 door truck...

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    Quote Originally Posted by No F-bdy Bs View Post
    5.3 is still very much a capable engine.
    Apparently GM doesn't agree with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hebrew Barrister View Post
    Apparently GM doesn't agree with you.
    Why do you keep saying that?

    GM offering a turbo six is just them catering to all the whiny people that think they need a 400+hp pickup truck to get mulch at Home Depot with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5.0THIS View Post
    Why do you keep saying that?

    GM offering a turbo six is just them catering to all the whiny people that think they need a 400+hp pickup truck to get mulch at Home Depot with.
    If they thought the 5.3 was as competitive as you think it is, they wouldn't be altering it or replacing it. Yet, they are. Therefore, they don't agree with you.

    It's a fine engine for a half ton, but it's not competitive with the ford 2.7, so needs to change.

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    My old 5.3 was more than capable for what I used it for and I used it well. It towed fine and got decent mileage on the highway. I can't imagine why anyone would NEED more in a half ton truck.

    My new 6.2 is great. Gets better mileage, tons of power. And I have had only one issue with the 8 speed...at low speeds (coming to a stop or in a parking lot) it tends to hunt for 1st or 2nd gear. Other than that, it's a great drivetrain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hebrew Barrister View Post
    If they thought the 5.3 was as competitive as you think it is, they wouldn't be altering it or replacing it. Yet, they are. Therefore, they don't agree with you.

    It's a fine engine for a half ton, but it's not competitive with the ford 2.7, so needs to change.
    The 2.7 is only slightly a better engine than the 5.3. I would still say it is competitive, which is impressive considering it’s 20 some years old. Real world MPG they are basically the same, my 5.3 feels just as quick and powerful as a similarly equipped 2.7 f150. Where it really shines is towing. They tow about the same weight, but the F150 will do it easier and be a little more efficient. GM has an edge on reliability too, although the 2.7 could end up being just as reliable, it just hasn’t been out as long.

    Just because they are continually altering or enhancing it does not mean it’s not competitive, it means GM is continually trying to put out a better product.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 94NDTA View Post
    The 2.7 is only slightly a better engine than the 5.3. I would still say it is competitive, which is impressive considering it’s 20 some years old. Real world MPG they are basically the same, my 5.3 feels just as quick and powerful as a similarly equipped 2.7 f150. Where it really shines is towing. They tow about the same weight, but the F150 will do it easier and be a little more efficient. GM has an edge on reliability too, although the 2.7 could end up being just as reliable, it just hasn’t been out as long.

    Just because they are continually altering or enhancing it does not mean it’s not competitive, it means GM is continually trying to put out a better product.
    This. All manufacturers try to continually better their products. I live at altitude, so turbo engines benefit us greatly, but at sea level Id have no problem buying a new 5.3 truck. Not many people give a fuck about going fast in a truck.

    My current older 5.3 truck does just fine in Colorado. I'd like more power, but I'm in the minority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5.0THIS View Post
    This. All manufacturers try to continually better their products. I live at altitude, so turbo engines benefit us greatly, but at sea level Id have no problem buying a new 5.3 truck. Not many people give a fuck about going fast in a truck.

    My current older 5.3 truck does just fine in Colorado. I'd like more power, but I'm in the minority.
    Are you in the market of a new truck?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hebrew Barrister View Post
    If they thought the 5.3 was as competitive as you think it is, they wouldn't be altering it or replacing it. Yet, they are. Therefore, they don't agree with you.

    It's a fine engine for a half ton, but it's not competitive with the ford 2.7, so needs to change.
    Since you seem to know more than anyone else here, what are they replacing it with? Because everything I've seen, ya know, being an inventory manager at a GM dealer and all, says the 5.3 isn't going anywhere yet.

    It is likely that GM is working on a diesel for the half ton but they have no reason to get rid of the 5.3 at this point. They'll more than likely just make improvements to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gearhead SS View Post
    Since you seem to know more than anyone else here, what are they replacing it with?
    Beats me. There's just speculation. I don't know shit and am just arguing for fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by easttexasws6 View Post
    Are you in the market of a new truck?
    Maybe a year from now. I don't need it though, my current truck is still under 80k miles and runs great. Just would be nice to get some of the newer tech in the current trucks.

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    it's quick.. a blast to drive. I get 15.4 mpg. pretty close to my 5.0L lariat, my last 6.2L silverado (this was worse like 14.6) and my wifes 5.3L tahoe

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTU View Post
    I have a 3.5 ecoboost in my truck and all I can say is, I must have gotten one of the bad ones lol

    it's quick.. a blast to drive. I get 15.4 mpg. pretty close to my 5.0L lariat, my last 6.2L silverado (this was worse like 14.6) and my wifes 5.3L tahoe
    That's actually pretty typical of a 3.5 ecoboost truck. Owners here on LS2.com have noted similar numbers. Berman never went past quarter throttle with his apparently.

    They are fast though. I enjoyed brake-boosting and launching the one I had for a few days a year ago
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5.0THIS View Post
    That's actually pretty typical of a 3.5 ecoboost truck. Owners here on LS2.com have noted similar numbers. Berman never went past quarter throttle with his apparently.

    They are fast though. I enjoyed brake-boosting and launching the one I had for a few days a year ago
    Meh, it's all how you drive. I get 16.8 with oversized tires. I realize that you are a GM homer but I don't think that you would be disappointed in a Ford in GM doesn't do something with their engine options and availability.

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    I'm mostly interested in the half ton diesel that GM has been working on.

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    4th gen Z28 style exhaust tips.


    Interesting how much the roof line curves. Must be an aerodynamic design for fuel economy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gearhead SS View Post
    No more squared wheel openings.



    4th gen Z28 style exhaust tips.


    Interesting how much the roof line curves. Must be an aerodynamic design for fuel economy.
    did they hire a honda ridgeline designer?
    that roof line looks horrible in those pics...

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    The Colorado and Canyon have a similar roof line. The round wheel openings could be part of the body camo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gearhead SS View Post
    No more squared wheel openings.



    4th gen Z28 style exhaust tips.


    Interesting how much the roof line curves. Must be an aerodynamic design for fuel economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JUSTINASS View Post
    did they hire a honda ridgeline designer?
    that roof line looks horrible in those pics...
    I totally saw that too. I'm glad I wasn't the only one.

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    I rented a Yukon XL with a 5.3 in Utah/Nevada last month. 4 people, tons of luggage. Put 1300 miles on it and averaged 20 MPG. I thought that was pretty gewd.

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    annoying...
    chevy thread about 2019 changes...
    "well ford engine is better"

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    Quote Originally Posted by easttexasws6 View Post
    Meh, it's all how you drive. I get 16.8 with oversized tires. I realize that you are a GM homer but I don't think that you would be disappointed in a Ford in GM doesn't do something with their engine options and availability.
    I compliment Ford plenty and bash GM when they deserve it, but that never gets mentioned because it doesn't fit the narrative that I'm a homer. prefering one brand of truck over another isn't ok anymore, especially according to the Ford owners on here.

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    Nobody cares

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    might an extra 50lbs of torque to the wheels down low help with towing? i'm confused. does towing like low end torque?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gearhead SS View Post
    No more squared wheel openings.


    Interesting how much the roof line curves. Must be an aerodynamic design for fuel economy.
    The GMC has the square wheel wells. The Chevy has rounded openings.

    The roof line does look odd in that picture but the thing that looks stranger to me is the size of the side windows. They look tiny (in height) and there looks to be a lot more door. Very Tundra-esque (ugly).

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    I tow a travel trailer with my 08 Silverado and the power of the 5.3 is more than sufficient. What kills it is the range getting 8mpg towing. A larger tank is what kept me out of this generation truck. Although I don't want that bad enough to buy a ford

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    The GMC being better looking would not be shocking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hebrew Barrister View Post
    That graph is bullshit. Typical 5.3s are pulling 290rwhp+ and 310 lbft+ On mustang dynos.

    Edit:

    Even on their (5 star tuning) Facebook page they have a dyno for a stock L83 putting down 287 rwhp and 318 lb ft on 87 octane untuned. That graph is Ford propoganda.

    GM has underrated their motors for almost 25 years, you really think the 5.3 is going to post up 100+ hp loss due to drivetrain? Hell, my old LT1 put up better numbers when it was stock on a mustang dyno.
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    The Sierra will look better as always.


    Could they put the fog lights a little higher up on the bumper?

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