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    looks awesome!

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    since the beginning i knew i wanted black headlights, but because its such a popular mod, and because GM hasnt made these headlights in years, they typically fetch a 4 figure price tag when a set comes up for sale.
    so i decided to make my own. got super lucky and found a 3 month old set on ebay in a less desirable cheaper color. pretty much new condition including lenses.

    started by baking them in the oven and prying. had to repeat this 5-10 times per headlight. HUGE PITA. took 4-5 hours.


    Finally!



    disassembled



    wet sanded, degreased, and ready for paint


    5 coats later


    polishing, i wont even bother going into this huge ordeal....


    reassembling


    after a ton of research i settled on loctite PL roof and flash. WARNING, if you have kids, dogs, wife etc, this stuff smells EXACTLY like chocolate cake. im not kidding, even once dry for weeks. keep out of reach


    no going back now


    clamped. rinse and repeat for other side.


    threw in a pair of 3k(yellow) HID headlights (right) ie C6R style.
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    wheels and tires.

    Square setup 4x

    18 x 10.5
    315/30/18 Rival S







    unfortunatly they wouldnt clear my calipers. bought some 1/4" spacers first but those were only enough for the rear. the front needed 12mm spacers. Both hub centric. also picked up some extended shank lugs to grab more threads lost from the spacers.



    bingo
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    Bumper and headlights removed and parts pile

    Splitter/bumper reinforcement
    Spindle brake ducts
    Tow hook
    Race pads
    Fog light brake ducts
    Race mesh
    Blacked out headlights
    LED DRLs




    picked up towhook from JDP Motorsports. instead of using the supplied press in nuts, i bought and welded some nuts to a piece of steel...


    marked hole locations in bumper bar


    drilled view from inside bumper bar


    stuck steel "handle" with nuts welded to it in bumper bar and tightened. cut off excess after tight. beats taping wrenches to sticks or the pressed in nuts.




    cut grill for tow hook
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    I'm loving this! Did you mount/take pics of red headlight assemblies mounted on the car? I wonder how "off" that would look...

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    no they went straight from ebay to the oven

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    The headlights look like they turned out fantastic. Good job.

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    brake cooling time!
    I started with Lambert/Quantum Fog light ducts and some race mesh



    added a slim aluminum cobb LED DRL light to replace the fogs and add some style. i just wired them to the factory fog light plugs.


    ducts and mesh in


    lights test




    surprisingly bright


    bumper/splitter re-enforcement installed


    ducts on fog ducts, and grill misc stuff reinstalled


    factory under bumper duct inlet, i cut off the tube 1" inside of the wheel well (inside bumper)


    and here it is with the fog light ducts connected to the factory wheel well duct with the wheel well pulled back. the silver line is where the wheel well intersects the hard duct.
    you can also see the LEDs wired to the fog plug and the factory opening for the brake duct now disconnected.


    after 4-5 test fits the bumper is back on finally!
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    next was time to install the spindle ducts.
    first i had to remove the wheel speed sensor and cut off the bracket.


    bracket dremeled off


    upgraded the factory padlets to 1 piece hawks. had great luck with these on the camaro on track.


    Lambert/Quantum competition spindle ducts installed. kit also came with the peices to fully enclose 360 degrees, but i chose to leave those off. also came with tie rod heat shields. left those off too.


    factory plastic wheel well duct connected to the spindle duct. keep in mind the suspension is at full droop here. the two line up pretty close when at ride height.



    rotor and caliper reinstalled. pic from the back side. seals against the rotor hub pretty good.



    wheel clearance at ride height. TONS o room. at least an inch everywhere. way better than i ever had in the camaro.


    finished pics coming soon!
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    Have you done any racing with it yet? Are you able to tell what all these mods are doing?

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    thanks!

    technically the only things ive done to the vette are lessons learned the hard way on camaro
    oil baffleing/blown motor
    brake ducts/boiled and lost brakes.

    and general race prep, fluids, pads, tires.

    my first race weekend is March 18th. ill admit its taking me a bit longer than id hoped to race prep. been busy with other stuff.
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    finally got some finished pics!










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    wow that looks fantastic

    well done

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    excellent

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    baddass...only thing that bothers me are the dark tail lights...
    have never liked them for some reason... but i understand they tie in with the other dark accents / indicator lights.
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    thanks guys!,
    yeah the taillights and side markers were already done when i bought it. luckily its just tinted vinyl i can peel off at anytime. and the taillights i probly will. there too dark for safety.
    i do like the way they look though.

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    Well i finally got the Z06 to the track at TWS

    i took it easy in the morning sessions, putting around in 4th and 5th. this meant coming out of the corners at around 2500-3000 rpm

    the lack of feel i noticed on the street, sadly continued over on track. no feedback or feeling, and felt like i was on iRacing Sim. the Rival S's also didnt squeal but i probably wasn't at their limit, so i had no audible warning either. i have the square 10.5 X 18 Z06 wheels with 315 Rivals on.
    the light weight steering on the street was different on track. it was much heavier, but still no feedback or car feeling.





    even with short shifting at 6k i was hitting 150mph at the end of the front "straight". the camaro did 135. 140 on a perfect lap. it moved around alot at that speed, darting left and right moving half a lane easy and bouncy. not sure it was the alignment, the shocks, or simply the extra speed.




    the lack of body roll and weight transfer was very apparent compared to the camaro. proby some of the lack of knowing what the car was doing feeling.







    in the morning sessions i was running 2:09s running 4th and 5th. in the afternoon sessions i was running 3rd,4th, 5th and was running 2:05s. the camaro average lap time was 2:02s and my fastest lap times were 1:59s. the vette is 400lbs lighter, an extra 100hp and 315 tires vs 285s on the camaro. i thought even in this first shack down the vette might turn a faster lap but not the case. hopefully the lap times will come down once my confidence in the car goes up. i was noticeably rolling out of the throttle early, and rolling back in late in the videos.

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    unfortunately on the 3rd afternoon session it all came to an end with loud ticking. i pulled it into the pits and parked it until the next morning. went to tractor supply and bought a come-a-long and got her loaded on the trailer and headed home. by the time i looked down the oil pressure was lower but still good. still in the 30psi range but fluctuating.




    heres the vid from the lap that the ticking happened.
    at :44 the ticking starts
    at 1:15 it gets worse
    at 1:39 i get a misfire and finally hear the ticking....
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    Damn the ticking! I hope it's not too serious.
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    I was just talking to a C5 owner yesterday who said he's driven both the C6 Z06 and the C7 Z06 and felt the C6 offered very little feel compared to the C5 and the C7.

    I hope the engine is alright.

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    damn hope its nothing serious.

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    Looking forward to the update, hope it's nothing serious.

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    Don't some of the C6Z's have a oil starvation issue because of the factory dry sump tank...

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    Quote Originally Posted by zo6pilot View Post
    Don't some of the C6Z's have a oil starvation issue because of the factory dry sump tank...
    im already running the larger sump tank (09+), and i put baffles in both the tank and the pan.

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    Sucks about the motor, hopefully its something simple like a rocker backing off. Do you think it's the front end lift causing the darty feeling? You added rear downforce but nothing on the front, and those cars had more lift in the front than in the rear with the stock configuration so it could be getting pretty light.

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    great minds think alike.

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    Have you had a chance to dig into it a bit and figure out what happen?

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    Good News!
    Tore into the motor starting with the passenger side valve cover and boom, the #1 exhaust rocker bolt was backed out!


    appears to be no other collateral damage other than where the rocker hit the valve cover.


    ended up taking out all 16 rocker bolts and locktighting them and re-torqueing to 22 ft lbs.
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    That's a relief. Glad it was a simple fix

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    Quote Originally Posted by runningmole View Post
    That's a relief. Glad it was a simple fix

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    This.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speed_demon24 View Post
    Sucks about the motor, hopefully its something simple like a rocker backing off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speed_demon24 View Post
    fucking nice man...i would have been clueless as to what happend!

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    Took the Z out to a NCCC autocross in Waco at Baylor stadium.


    unfortunatly on the first run my exhaust some how popped off both sides of the X pipe at the first set of cones. limped back to the pits and got it fixed missing the first and second runs.


    get in line and started run #3, boom exhaust pops off again at gate 3. this time only one side. i move the clamps over the lip and get them to clamp down tight this time.


    Finally get some runs in and in the afternoon post my fastest of the day a 47.8
    the 1st and 2nd place points leaders were there running low 46s so i was happy. most of the feild was running low 50s. got to really push myself and the car for the first time. getting more comfortable with it. went over the limit a few times

    my fastest run


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    Congrats! Seat time helps tremendously.

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    Nice! Hey, I was thinking about your mods today. For the headlights, could you have used a heat gun instead of an oven?

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    thanks guys.

    naa too localized. also too hot. especially with the red lights i bought. they already had a plastic protective film on the clear lens.
    everyone does them in the oven (non vette lights too)

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    even with the valves open on the stock NPP exhaust, the car wasnt loud enough for me.

    i picked up some 3" Dynomax mini race bullets and turndowns
    getting the car high enough in the driveway to get the stock exhaust out was quiet tricky. passenger side was even harder than drivers side.


    plan was to also shave a TON of weight.



    bullets on


    turn downs (for what!)


    now im used to a loud car, my SS was usually always the loudest car at the track. running a single 12" Dynomax bullet dumping under the rear seats.
    but this was TOO loud even for me. it sounded like 7 nascars and 2 prostocks all fireing up at the same time! theres no way i could ever drive anywhere without being immediately pulled over.

    the camera could NOT pick up how loud this thing was. shaking the ground. my wife had ear plugs in filming this
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    well i pulled a last minute thrash session and got the stock exhaust put back on the night before and headed back to TWS last weekend.



    and after reading a thread on c6 z06 aero lift, i also removed the front air damn under the radiator/nose. it seems to help. wasnt near as dancy and it was the first time.

    the auto cross really helped me and i was able to push much harder this time. was comfortable enough to start throttle steering on exits again like i did in the camaro.
    was pushing hard enough id have to do a cool down lap for the water and oil temps after 4 or so straight hot laps. going to need to address that.

    i found myself doing more of a stop, pivot, and squirt style driving in the Z06 than i did in the camaro, camaro i did more of a flowing miata style driving. but for some reason this car makes me slam on the brakes, pivot, and then gun it. not sure why, but i noticed it.

    was the first time ive ever seen the debris flag for low flying buzzards crossing the paths of the cars on the back stretch. that was a weird one.

    found out the Z burn 5 gallons of gas for every 20 minute session.

    heres some footage compilation of some of the laps.


    Lap time update!
    backstory: i use race chrono app for my lap timing. worked great in the camaro (glass t-tops).
    well i noticed since using it in the Z06 its been acting weird, it will only records 1 to 3 laps per 10 lap session and the lap times were much slower than i had hoped for 2:04 to 2:09 and very random. (1:59 was fastest in camaro)
    well during the video editing i mark the time for the start of each lap for each view.
    well i noticed one of the lap markers was exactly 2 minutes apart. and then after that the next two were 1:59s! matching the fastest of the camaro!
    well when i got to the 5th gopro footage and i had two laps that were 1:57!!! i checked them twice on both cameras that were rolling and i got 1:57 each time for both laps.
    i couldnt figure out why i felt like i was hauling and the lap times were so slow. i dont know if the roof is carbon fiber like the fenders and not allowing good GPS signal or what. but a huge relief that the new car has already paid off in lap times! i couldnt figure out what i was doing wrong. stupid technology.



    bad news is on sunday on the last session before lunch i got an engine light on the dash, and the car started to run rough, getting progressively worse. so i loaded it up and brought it home.
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    im over here just hoping to grow up one day

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    well in an effort lower my oil and water temp, and to reduce the high pressure packing under the hood causing my front end aero lift at high speeds on the track, i picked up a 5th gen camaro SS heat extractor vent (part #22828242)


    started by checking clearances with some string. there was none. but the strings were 1/2" below the hood line, and plus i forgot the hood has a bulge in the middle.


    started by tracing the vent onto a piece of paper, then offsetting in .6" with another line for the actual hole



    marking front to back


    marking side to side center


    pattern cut out and taped into place. 6.5" from back of hood to the start of the opening (just inside under hood structure brace)


    traced with sharpie


    BUTT PUCKER!!!!!!!! took one deep breath and drilled four 1/2" holes.
    tape to protect paint


    took my jig saw and cut it out. worked perfect. super clean cuts.


    under side. bent up some 1/2" x 1/8" aluminum and bolted it in


    painted the aluminum brackets black, and cut out the factory hood insulation for a factory look.


    finished!










    took it out for test drive on the street and after warmed up you could see a 6"-8" heat wave shooting out of the vents at stop lights. after sitting for a few hours back at home, the hood was stone cold, and you could still feel heat coming out of the vents.
    anxious to get back to the track to see if its more front end planted, and if my temps lower
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    looks awesome

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    I agree with Stew!

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    That looks really good!

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    Nice work!

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    That extractor looks more at home on your hood than it does on the 5th gens! Awesome work.

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    Nice work!

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    Looks great. Taking a drill/saw to a perfectly good hood would be a serious pucker moment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Griswold View Post
    Looks great. Taking a drill/saw to a perfectly good hood would be a serious pucker moment
    I was thinking the same. ZO6 hood? Eh... big deal. Pass me the saw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Griswold View Post
    Looks great. Taking a drill/saw to a perfectly good hood would be a serious pucker moment
    Right? I was nervous cutting the holes in the bed of my GMC for the hide-a-ball hitch. I can't imagine cutting up my hood.

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    yeah i would need a couple of beers to work up the courage to do that...then probably screw it up

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    What a great thread.

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    Nice fab job and thanks for a great thread! Did you see a bulge in the hood at speed before you installed the extractor and did it go away after it was in? Curious because my C7 hood has a bulge at high speed and that extractor is further forward than yours, away from the high pressure area at the windshield.
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    Still @ him cutting a hole in the hood. No way in hell would that work out well for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DANSBIRD View Post
    Still @ him cutting a hole in the hood. No way in hell would that work out well for me.
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    My friend's only comment was, "Anybody can restore one but it takes a real man to cut one up".

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    Quote Originally Posted by fitz View Post
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    My friend's only comment was, "Anybody can restore one but it takes a real man to cut one up".
    I have a deep hatred for that friend of yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Potent68 View Post
    I have a deep hatred for that friend of yours.
    I have to agree with you. He took an all original 1966 390 HP 427 roadster and cut it up. Restored that car would have been an original matching numbers roadster worth six figures. Now it is a pile of crap no one wants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fitz View Post
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    My friend's only comment was, "Anybody can restore one but it takes a real man to cut one up".

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