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    im not 100% sure. i have been getting alot of underhood splatter since racing, but the top of the resevoir isnt really any wetter looking than its been during its street life use. i have been thinking of going to a turnone pump, as my PS pump line seals are leaking slightly.

    definatly hope to see you.

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    looks great! i hated your old wheels...
    now can we talk about your tail lights?
    that brake set up looks killer - good luck at the next event.

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    How much for those wheels? I was just looking over the big brake kit upgrade because a guy fit them behind 17 inch ZR1 wheels with a slight bit of grinding the casting flash on the calipers, but I'm still thinking it's too tight.

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    wheels were about 575

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    Thanks.

    Not too bad. I was thinking of putting Z06 rear wheels on all 4 corners of my 99 to do the upgrade, but I just put new tires on the 17's that are nice.

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    Did you use OE Wheels LLC? I used them for my Z06 replicas for around that price.

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    What is the best/biggest front kit you can use with the factory 17 inch wheels?

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    artic: yes OE wheels

    Gris: look into "track brackets" and c5/base c6 setup.

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    best event yet! car was completly transformed!










    Hankooks and brakes did amazing. Only had to use probly 25% brake power/pedal and ran all weekend long strong zero fad. Also really helped the Braking bias, no more oversteer when braking, and ABS really left me alone. Big improvment. Tires were awesome, covered me on a few bad lines keeping me straight and on track. Lots more grip and turn in and got rid of under steer. Car did great! for the first time nothing broke, failed, or let me down (well broke seat braket) If i had to find a flaw i would say that using so little of the massive braking power, it gave back very little "feel" threw the pedal since i was just breathing of them. but still insane performance.


    the square tire setup really livened up the car too, lots more turn in and neutral steering, vs the old staggered setups understeer. also the lots softer compound was really working and making a difference. big jump in grip.


    Had one of my best sessions ever Saturday i think it was. Decided to go out with the leaders. Following #1 full race C5Z. Gave me something to push for and overcome my comfort zone. Was flying out there and really wheelin the car finally. Tires were screamin for mercy. I kept pushing and the car kept taking it. awesome run. Also finally figured out a better line for me into 8, turning in early. What a blast!!!!

    Heres a few random clips from the weekend (long)

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    also got to run in the rain


    saw the storm coming right before my session and knew i wanted to try it. most sat out, i think only 8 or so of us went out in the wet.

    i left it in 5th and putted around, dropping my cornering speeds to around 60. caught a few cars that i guess were going even easier than i was.

    slow and boring wet vid. got progressivly worse as the session went on.

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    Awesome! those brakes sound impressive! I want to do the same upgrade but I just bought new 275-40-17 tires.

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    saw your motor thread on tech

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    Quote Originally Posted by Griswold View Post
    saw your motor thread on tech
    Well?? Link or details?
    Blown motor?
    Wasn't that CT Morgans motor from Bevo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JUSTINASS View Post
    Well?? Link or details?
    Blown motor?
    Wasn't that CT Morgans motor from Bevo?
    http://ls1tech.com/forums/generation...ortblocks.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by JUSTINASS View Post
    Well?? Link or details?
    Blown motor?
    Wasn't that CT Morgans motor from Bevo?
    yes his stage two 863 heads and his fast 90 setup

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    Had an awesome event at the last autocross. Car and myself did very well. It was a really open course which suited my bigger car well. Was super stoked with my times. I did so well I ended up winning the RWD class! and even better I also beat the entire AWD class too other than 1st place.



    Vids of the a few runs. better runs start at the 3:09 mark





























    And then this happened


    forged internals and ARPs, but im assuming a rod or rod bolt let go.

    video here, about the :29 second mark I started hearing a double exhaust note/echo, i figured i had just blown a header gasket or broke an exhaust weld or something. I backed off but kepts going. coming back into the crossover the rear tires locked up and the motor let out the smoke. no real noises, booms, or shrapnel sounds. just died.
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    Pull the valve covers to make sure you didn't drop a valve? Super aggressive lobes on some of those cams = disaster waiting to happen. Would explain the exhaust note too.w

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    I was gonna say that you got that new motor broken in in a hurry! But I see we stepped back in time a smidge.

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    We got the motor pulled out last night






    drain plug

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    Yikes!
    did you decide on a replacement engine yet?

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    I want a lift

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    Yeah ordered a TSP 347 Friday. basically the same as the LME short block I had. other than 5.3 block vs LS1 block.
    https://www.texas-speed.com/p-75-tsp...ort-block.aspx

    also picked up oil pump, gasket kit, bolts, lifters, valve spring kit, timing chain, etc.

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    what made you go with a 347?

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    cost, weight, and supporting mods. this was a surprise I wasn't planning on.

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    carnage pics

    pan


    rods wanted out!


    Damage was worse than we thought. #5 and 6 completely disintegrated. Forged rods, forged pistons, cylinder walls/block, crank, bearings, valves, everything. Shrapnel got 3 and 4 too


    whats left of #5


    top and right you can see the valve strikes. bottom left you can see where the piston hit the bowl of the head. and the piston spun nearly 180*


    you can see the hole in the block at the top. and all the carnage below. unbelievable.

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    Ain't no half-stepping there!

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    Got to overfill that pan by a quart.
    Gs and the gap in the windage tray where the low oil sensor is allows oil to ride up the side of the block, starving the pick up.
    We always ran an extra quart. The motor will burn it, so check it often.

    Here are a group of 5 of us ...



    James, if you run across this thread ... remember the good ole days?
    This had to be 02 or 03?


    You have added a lot of unsprung weight in rotors and calipers. Check those front hubs often. The added weight, grip and braking power will destroy those front hubs.
    National brand uses Timken bearing (at least they did a few years ago). They'll give you the best service. And if you have a good relationship with your local O'Reilly's, they have a lifetime warranty.

    Brakes ... I run a Hawk pad when I open track my CTS-V. And after going through GALLONS of Motul brake fluid, take it from me ... bite the bullet and swap over to Castrol SRF. It's a lot of upfront cost, but you NEVER have to deal with constant brake bleeding again. A quick bleed, enough to replenish the fluid held in the caliper is all it takes.

    When I was racing CMC, I would bleed the brakes once a year.

    550/160 spring rates for a 3800lb car is way too soft. When the car is in full weight transfer while cornering, the spring will bind and rate goes infinite. I ran 750 front and 250 year in a 3200lb car with a 57/43% F/R bias. I have several sets of springs set up for true coil overs in the front (2.5" Eibach) and 5.25" pigtail springs for the rear in various rates and lengths. You can have them if you want them. Just taking up space.

    At TWS we would never lift through 7 or 12 and never get on the brakes till we were on the flat at 1. And fast in an F-Car around TWS is in the 58s.

    Weight and weight placement is the only way to get there. In CMC, we were consistently sub-2 minute laps in RESTRICTED to 230hp, bone stock, 100K mile LT1 F-Cars at 3200lbs. Its great to have the power to accelerate down the straights, but your time is carrying all that weight through the braking zone and momentum through the corners. Until you can get tires and suspension under the car, power does little for low lap times.
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    yep. I always over filled 1. and checked after each session.
    although the autox where it blew, I wasn't checking it as much. but because the car was only running for 30 seconds, vs 20 minutes at TWS.

    I plan to run the pan baffle this time around

    awesome photo btw.
    yeah read a lot about the hubs on frrax. looks like now they actually have chromoly hubs and a corvette hub adapter mods there using over the Timken's. more cost, but only have to do it once.
    yeah hp isn't important any more. seat time is.

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    well ive got this thing back together"thumbsup"

    went with a Texas Speed short block. Aluminum 5.3L bored back to 5.7. forged goodies and overall nearly identical to what I had before other than block.


    heads are my old ported 862s that I had completely refreshed. replaced the 4 bent valves, new double PRC .650 springs, new Ti retainers, new seats and seals, decked and valve job.


    the cam was a big one for me. I spent 3 weeks talking with a bunch of the industry's biggest getting specs, opinions, and learning a lot about valve events. ended up having Tick Performance Custom grind me this cam. Went with lower duration, and a reverse split lift to try to give up some big end peak HP to gain some mid range power band. 227/235 .619/.600 112.6 LSA


    long block assembled


    accessorized and wired


    I just liked this pic was about to steam clean the engine bay, firewall, and K-member


    Motor back on the K-member! intake, headers, clutch, etc etc on.


    lifted back into place. was a cool feeling/moment


    the first fire up!


    all finished. I now have about 450 break in miles on the motor, and next week will do the final oil change to remove the break in oil. Ordered a case of Joe Gibbs LS30 oil to run from now on.
    I did lots of other updating along the way as opportunity presented itself. basically restoring everything under the hood to brand new parts and making all little issues "right"

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    Awesome

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    That's going to be fun

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    It we learn the op doesn't know what a reverse split cam is. Guessing it's from advanced induction.

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    is that a stock crank pulley?

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    Quote Originally Posted by speed_demon24 View Post
    It we learn the op doesn't know what a reverse split cam is. Guessing it's from advanced induction.
    technically reverse split is a bigger intake/smaller exhaust duration. however I did mention that the lift was reverse split, not a reverse split cam.
    while I did talk to AI the cam was actually ordered threw Tick, but Cam Motion is who actually does the grinding which is who I wanted, but ordering threw Tick saves you 50 bucks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Griswold View Post
    is that a stock crank pulley?
    lol yes, the one reused item we forgot to clean.
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    any particular reason for using the stock pulley?

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    it wasn't broke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STANG KILLA SS View Post
    technically reverse split is a bigger intake/smaller exhaust duration. however I did mention that the lift was reverse split, not a reverse split cam.
    while I did talk to AI the cam was actually ordered threw Tick, but Cam Motion is who actually does the grinding which is who I wanted, but ordering threw Tick saves you 50 bucks.


    lol yes, the one reused item we forgot to clean.
    Cam motion makes good cams. Shouldn't beat up the valve train like the internet shops out there do.

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    Looks like it can now be your daily as well as your track car!

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    well i had my first time back at AutoX last weekend. motor had about 400 miles on it, and still had the break in oil in it, hasnt even been on the dyno yet:mrgreen:

    The course was longer and much tighter than previous courses. not big car freindly. two 150* hairpins and two loops. the good news for me, only 2 of the Miatas showed up to compete for this event.












    id been battling with a couple S2000's all day for top honors. we'd worked our times down to a 49.1(him) and a 49.2 (me). well on my 4th run(3:30 in the video) the sun was setting and i knew the track was going to cool off and this would be my last chance to get a good time in and i went out knowing i had to push harder. ended up stomping a good run and put down the quickest time of the event

    had a blast and the car did great! also got to do some night time fun runs. times were about 2 seconds slower in the dark (5:30 in the video)


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    Very nice!

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    Awesome! glad you got it back together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STANG KILLA SS View Post
    well i had my first time back at AutoX last weekend. motor had about 400 miles on it, and still had the break in oil in it, hasnt even been on the dyno yet:mrgreen:

    The course was longer and much tighter than previous courses. not big car freindly. two 150* hairpins and two loops. the good news for me, only 2 of the Miatas showed up to compete for this event.












    id been battling with a couple S2000's all day for top honors. we'd worked our times down to a 49.1(him) and a 49.2 (me). well on my 4th run(3:30 in the video) the sun was setting and i knew the track was going to cool off and this would be my last chance to get a good time in and i went out knowing i had to push harder. ended up stomping a good run and put down the quickest time of the event

    had a blast and the car did great! also got to do some night time fun runs. times were about 2 seconds slower in the dark (5:30 in the video)

    Nice!! I remember your car from LS1.com glad you still have it, how many miles are on your odometer?? My 01 Z-28 M6 had over 200K miles on it when I got rid of it in 2005 yeah I put a lot of miles on it.. It was the most reliable car I ever owned besides getting the oil changed and spark plugs the only thing I ever had to buy was a battery and tires.. I was 20 when I got it and drove the hell out of it..

    Also I like your new wheels better than your previous wheels..

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    thanks! yep still have it. my wife still has her 02 WS6 too. her only car and still daily drives it.
    camaro's got 123k on it, although thats just the body really. esecially everything else has been replaced and upgraded. and wifes WS6 has 204k on it.
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    well im a couple weeks behind getting these edited and posted but here they are. PDS at TWS.

    Car did great. I was able to pass everyone in my group. Saturday there was a '15 911 I wasn't able to pass, our pace was the same but he was far more aggressive in traffic so I never could get around him. Sunday however there was half the cars and I was able to pass him.8)













    probly the highlight of the weekend was having a F430 in two of my sessions! pretty sweet getting to race against it, ive never seen another Ferrari on track.
    Saturday in the sun I was able to catch and pass him in two laps. Sunday in the rain however, his mid engine was giving him a lot more rear grip, took me 4 laps but I was still able to catch and pass him.
    going by a $200,000 super car in a $10,000 Camaro was a pretty cool feeling








    heres a little mash up id did combining all my laps from the weekend into a single lap.

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    part 2

    on the last lap on sunday, on the front stretch i threw the belt off the pulleys. coming into turn 1 at 130 mph with no power steering was a serious pucker moment. but kept it on the pavement. overheated the car getting it back to pits with no waterpump, but so far everything has checked out. no blown head gaskets.
    however unfortunately while checking for water in the oil (none), I came across this.



    the blue color, and the spring were an immediate giveaway. valve seals.
    pulled the valve covers and replaced them. over half of them were just floating on the valve stems. the ones what were down were crushed. 5 total.
    it looks like the machine shop just slide the seals over the stems and didn't tap them on. just pushed on with hands.
    got them all swaped out to some comp cams seals and fully seated on the guides.

    old seals



    got her back together and everything good to go other than tune. still fighting that.

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    haha yeah, dude was from Austin. probly owns it.

    you check out the vid? im sorta proud of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STANG KILLA SS View Post
    haha yeah, dude was from Austin. probly owns it.

    you check out the vid? im sorta proud of it.
    looks like a blast

    also makes me want to order parts for my car

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    very nice!

    Man I want to get my car back out on track. Just got my BeCool radiator and Blainefab power steering cooler installed. Now just need some new brake pads.

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    Making me miss mine. Please delete thread and stop posting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAMN SS View Post
    very nice!

    Man I want to get my car back out on track. Just got my BeCool radiator and Blainefab power steering cooler installed. Now just need some new brake pads.
    keep me posted on those. been eyeing a radiator for next summers racing. i have power steering cooler but havent installed it yet, waiting to see how the Turn One PS pump does on its own. so far its still coming out the cap like the stock pump. doesnt wine though like the stocker at high RPM.

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    You mentioned the other cars you passed, but in your vid it looks like you were giving the C7 hell, also. Please pontificate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STANG KILLA SS View Post
    keep me posted on those. been eyeing a radiator for next summers racing. i have power steering cooler but havent installed it yet, waiting to see how the Turn One PS pump does on its own. so far its still coming out the cap like the stock pump. doesnt wine though like the stocker at high RPM.
    Did you opt for the underdrive pulley? Or do they still offer it?

    The reservoir is vented through the cap. Vapor collects and then liquifies in the vent and pushed out.
    On our road race cars we would use a hair scrunchie on the fill neck and seat it under the cap.
    The scrunchie would get oil soaked and have to be changed, but it would keep it of the belt drive and minimize the mess.

    Even a TO or PSC pump on an LT1 which has a remote reservoir would vent and make a mess.


    Northern makes a nice multi-pass, aluminum radiator. The BC rads are nice, but can get a bit pricey.
    The biggest helper in keeping the car cool is sealing the air inlet so that all the air goes through the radiator.

    I made side panels out of this stuff ...

    http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Colore...0-Ft,1557.html

    I used this stuff for all kinds of things ... deflectors, covers, filler pieces ...
    It works much like sheet metal. Put it in a brake and it will hold the shape.

    Built an air duct and fan shroud for my oil cooler. Used it as a rock shield for the oil cooler lines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mitchntx View Post
    Did you opt for the underdrive pulley? Or do they still offer it?

    The reservoir is vented through the cap. Vapor collects and then liquifies in the vent and pushed out.
    On our road race cars we would use a hair scrunchie on the fill neck and seat it under the cap.
    The scrunchie would get oil soaked and have to be changed, but it would keep it of the belt drive and minimize the mess.

    Even a TO or PSC pump on an LT1 which has a remote reservoir would vent and make a mess.


    Northern makes a nice multi-pass, aluminum radiator. The BC rads are nice, but can get a bit pricey.
    The biggest helper in keeping the car cool is sealing the air inlet so that all the air goes through the radiator.

    I made side panels out of this stuff ...

    http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Colore...0-Ft,1557.html

    I used this stuff for all kinds of things ... deflectors, covers, filler pieces ...
    It works much like sheet metal. Put it in a brake and it will hold the shape.

    Built an air duct and fan shroud for my oil cooler. Used it as a rock shield for the oil cooler lines.
    Becool + RK sport airdam = temps never got past 190's at sebring in my old 430rwhp lt1. Wasn't pushing the hardest, but they would have never been a concern considering the headroom I had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrivingZiggy View Post
    You mentioned the other cars you passed, but in your vid it looks like you were giving the C7 hell, also. Please pontificate.
    im not sure what your asking me i didnt post every lap from every session. video would have been like 4 hours long. only posted 1 corner from each clip to make 1 lap. and i usually pick clips with no traffic cause im faster and on MY line. let me know what your asking me to pontificate....and what the heck that means

    Quote Originally Posted by mitchntx View Post
    Did you opt for the underdrive pulley? Or do they still offer it?

    The reservoir is vented through the cap. Vapor collects and then liquifies in the vent and pushed out.
    On our road race cars we would use a hair scrunchie on the fill neck and seat it under the cap.
    The scrunchie would get oil soaked and have to be changed, but it would keep it of the belt drive and minimize the mess.

    Even a TO or PSC pump on an LT1 which has a remote reservoir would vent and make a mess.


    Northern makes a nice multi-pass, aluminum radiator. The BC rads are nice, but can get a bit pricey.
    The biggest helper in keeping the car cool is sealing the air inlet so that all the air goes through the radiator.

    I made side panels out of this stuff ...

    http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Colore...0-Ft,1557.html

    I used this stuff for all kinds of things ... deflectors, covers, filler pieces ...
    It works much like sheet metal. Put it in a brake and it will hold the shape.

    Built an air duct and fan shroud for my oil cooler. Used it as a rock shield for the oil cooler lines.
    they offer a pulley but its not underdrive. just billet and lightened (and allows you to remove pump without pulley puller)
    great idea on the scrunchy!
    thanks for the tips on fbody rad brands, im(google) having trouble finding any.
    you know i think my top shroud panel that goes to the rad is removed (to aid my K&N FIPK intake.) ill get that sealed back up this summer. great tip!

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    Quote Originally Posted by STANG KILLA SS View Post
    im not sure what your asking me i didnt post every lap from every session. video would have been like 4 hours long. only posted 1 corner from each clip to make 1 lap. and i usually pick clips with no traffic cause im faster and on MY line. let me know what your asking me to pontificate....and what the heck that means
    At one point in your vid you seem to be coming up on the 'Vette pretty quickly. Did you pass him, too?

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