I think the term retard was covered in the post prior to mine. I don't like that term either. So all you want. If someone refers to you as a retard, report the fucking post. We'll deal with the reported post if and when it pops up. ALL reported posts are e-mailed to ALL of the folks on the staff.
I said unless he is driving he doesn't have to show them his ID and then stated he can just give them his name.
You said no he has to give them his ID
Obviously that is wrong so now you have changed your story to "you refuse to produce ID or tell officers who you are"
So you went from "you have to give them your ID" to well you can give them your ID or you have to tell the police your name.......hmm I think someone said that before.....who was it......oh it was me
Thanks for playing
Originally posted by WFO_SS
nah, it's much more amusing to see you pWn yourself repeatedly.
Originally posted by WFO_SS
your a genious.Originally posted by Immortal
I dont "nut hug" any car.
The police in this case are legally allowed to ask for I.d if he says no he is detained end of story. You still havent shown me where this is not policy other than made up nonsense.
I tend to agree that as a whole there are very few police officers to know how to properly deescalate a situation most respond by escalating the situation because that's the only way they know how to respond is with more force.
"An economist is an expert who will know tomorrow why the things he predicted yesterday didn't happen today."
You know what I find repulsive and repugnant? Five men killing an innocent man, and before any of you say otherwise, he is certainly innocent until proven guilty in this country. You know what else I find repulsive and repugnant? The lack of outrage of this and similar crimes. You know what else I find repulsive and repugnant? The rationalization of this type of brutality.
Most of you sicken me. It seems like only Rich and a few others have any form of ethics or morality. That reminds me, I also find that repulsive and repugnant.
P.S. You sound silly when you say the equivalent of, "I find x ugly and ugly." It sounds absurd and I only used your wording to highlight that fact. It doesn't sound smart or poignant.
You don't even know how this man died and have already found the police guilty. Again, critical thinking skills not found.
I'm still waiting to hear what the police should have done different to try and arrest this man.
1. It's a violation of their oath.
2. It's an abuse of the constitution.
3. It's an abuse of the power entrusted to them by the people.
4. It's a violation of the public trust.
All other professional careers are punished more severely for mistakes than the average person because they have the public's trust, and have the education to know better. Doctors, lawyers, and engineers are held to incredibly strict standards. The bar should be at least as high for officers.
It's funny, had this same video been posted but nothing had happen to the big guy but a night in jail, everyone here would have been praising police for the way they handled this. They didn't beat him with night sticks, they didn't tase him, they didn't shoot him, they didn't slam his head into the concrete or kick him over and over.
They sprayed him, wrestled him to the ground, handcuffed him and got off.
But instead, we have people already wanting jail for the LEO's before we even know how the guy died.
Critical thinking skills my ass.
Critical thinkers willing to pass judgement without all the facts aren't anything close to being critical thinkers.
Again, I'll give the cops the benefit of the doubt for now and wait for the whole story. If they slammed this guy to the ground for no good reason and sat on him, I'll be the first to say they were at fault for his death.
I guess what pisses me off is how the cops make assumptions about who is at fault with zero facts. Like if a white guy robs a black guy, the black guy calls the cops, they show up and immediately want to put the black guy in handcuffs while they get the story from the white guy. Same here except replace white guy with woman and black guy with man. He's automatically at fault even though he was just walking down the lot minding his own business not breaking any laws, it's BS.
If one of those 5 cops dropped dead of a heart attack during the incident and the guy being cuffed survived, you can bet your ass he'd be facing charges in the officer's death. Even without all of the facts being in.
They're just going with the odds. A man is a hell of a lot more of a risk than a woman. And domestic disputes are dangerous as F. A man could beat his wife, she calls the cops, they arrive arrest him and she goes off at the cops for doing so. Happens all the time.
Last edited by Jack Daniels; 02-27-2014 at 07:27 PM.
I like how people are experts on what the cops should have done when the wife pulled out her cellphone half way into the incident.
Liberal...as defined by Webster's
1) generous 2) ample, abundant 3) not literal or strict 4) tolerant; broad-minded 5) favoring reform or progress - one who favors reform or progress
Also, you can absolutely be detained if you refuse to ID yourself while they figure it out.
Times you do have to present I.d or be detained until they can prove you identity.
-any time criminal activity is suspected.
Look it up,learn your rights, don't spread false information.
Also, I respect everyone unless I find my respect to be PROVEN unwarranted. Thus, none of the officers in the clip showed any reason for me to not respect them. You, on the other hand, seem to have a different approach to respect than I do.
Cop- do you have id?
Joe- no I do not
Cop- well there is a domestic dispute I need to identify you
Joe- Joe blow don 1-3-58 ssn blah blha
Cop- well the Joe blow you just gave me is not coming up as a blue eyed blonde hair and a midget but cool you couldn't possibly be using someone else's information to trick me. Byehbye.