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Tuffass
02-17-2004, 12:02 AM
Is it really all that good? I am interested in getting a good choppy idle cam.

Whats the best performing cam to get for midrange power w/out losing daily drivability?

M6, headers, catback, underdrive pully, intake lid w/filter

bRa_DeN
02-17-2004, 12:55 AM
i would go with a tr224 112 lsa i love mine, its just as streetable for a daily driver as the hotcam but a little bigger and you get more power!:D

thechef
02-17-2004, 01:49 AM
Originally posted by bRa_DeN
i would go with a tr224 112 lsa i love mine, its just as streetable for a daily driver as the hotcam but a little bigger and you get more power!:D

great choice

gdu
02-17-2004, 03:19 AM
http://www.jeffgdula.com/Z28/images/hotcam2.jpg
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gdu
02-17-2004, 03:23 AM
I really like it. Good power, dont have to worry bout valvesprings. choppy idle, good characteristics. Everybosy says youll wish you went biugger but i dont feel that way. If this was not my DD and I had heads yeah prob, but not for what I need. Drove it for a month with no tune (did not drill tb or adjust idle screw) and then needed a tune after LT's. Hope this helps.

PC PaiN
02-17-2004, 08:07 AM
If you want a really choppy idle cam that is still easy on valvesprings, look at the ASA cam also.

gdu
02-17-2004, 03:01 PM
but that thing is for road racing, and doesnt make power in good places for a street car IMO.

SilverGhost
02-17-2004, 03:51 PM
I had the hotcam for a pretty long time back in the day, was the first one around with it installed on the net.

I liked it, was a great cam for a daily driven car IMO. Sounded good, made decent power(330 RWHP with NO headers, no tuning, stock 98 intake, TB, etc) car went 12.6@113 all day long on horrible 2.1 sixties(that was after headers though)

at the time it was cool, but i'd go with something different now..i think cams have come to the point where you can get something that will make more power and still be just as daily driveable and so on. i mean the cam has the same specs as the lt4 hotcam..gm really didn't put much thinking into it ya know.

kinda a matter of what you can deal with,too..i mean there's guys that daily drive G5X2 and X3 cams around, lol.

Jay 2001 TA
02-17-2004, 03:56 PM
I have a Hotcam that will be going in before spring hits. From what I have gathered about it the Hotcam it is in no way the best cam out there. The idle is mean as hell though. Its not the best cam by far for power but it fit my personal needs exactly.

I was looking for a cam that will hold me over for a year or so while I save up for a complete h/c combo. This cam will sound mean and give me some power.. there is better out there but bang for buck this cam is perfect!

bRa_DeN
02-17-2004, 04:39 PM
i still like the power boost the tr224 gives you over the hotcam:D

camaross383
02-17-2004, 06:23 PM
I have a friend that runs 11.5x and traps 115+ with the Hotcam and stock heads. Very impressive.

Michael
02-17-2004, 09:17 PM
If my daily driver was an ls1, then I would run the hot cam in it. I almost bought another ta for a dd but decided on a 4x4. A hotcam with some decent stage 1 heads would be nice for a reliable street machine (that's what I had planned). The tr224 mentioned, and many others do perform better when set up right. But with the higher lifts of those i would be paroniod driving on road trips. It would suck to be out in BFE with a broken valve spring. In summary, I like the hotcam because it is cheap, lower lift makes it reliable, it sounds cool and makes good midrange power where you want it on the street.

98SSBlackattack
02-17-2004, 10:12 PM
Most people love it or hate it. I think the TQ #'s are impressive compared to other cams. The TQ is always the same as hp.

bRa_DeN
02-17-2004, 10:13 PM
Originally posted by Michael
If my daily driver was an ls1, then I would run the hot cam in it. I almost bought another ta for a dd but decided on a 4x4. A hotcam with some decent stage 1 heads would be nice for a reliable street machine (that's what I had planned). The tr224 mentioned, and many others do perform better when set up right. But with the higher lifts of those i would be paroniod driving on road trips. It would suck to be out in BFE with a broken valve spring. In summary, I like the hotcam because it is cheap, lower lift makes it reliable, it sounds cool and makes good midrange power where you want it on the street.

the lift on the tr224 is only 563 which makes it only average and i have no problem with it in my daily driver! ;)

Blacker
02-17-2004, 10:28 PM
Originally posted by bRa_DeN
the lift on the tr224 is only 563 which makes it only average and i have no problem with it in my daily driver! ;)

One reason why I picked the TR224 over other cams.

Michael
02-17-2004, 11:30 PM
Yeah, but the lift on the HC is only .525. No way you will break a spring with that. It's a good cam for the money and for a mild setup. For someone looking to spend more money on good s2 heads and get more power out of it, a tr224 would be better. But I personally would run a double spring with anything over .550 lift. I'm just an overly cautious person, and have heard of too many springs breaking. With the 224 even.

bRa_DeN
02-18-2004, 05:49 AM
most of those broken springs are from the old batch of comp 918's;)

jrp
02-18-2004, 10:38 AM
Originally posted by bRa_DeN
most of those broken springs are from the old batch of comp 918's;)

:werd: or pushing another spring to there limit, i think one guy was running some blue stripped 918's with an x2 :umm:

the hot cam fills a niche for a lot of people; sounds great, excellent spring life, mild lobes, and good mid range power, and a low cost.

i personally wouldnt buy one, but its not a bad cam persay. i'd go bigger on a more aggressive lobe and get more power under the curve then what could be accomplished with the hot cam.

03ToRcHrEdVeTtE
02-18-2004, 03:42 PM
my roommate has the hot cam and with his headers it is pretty damn loud and has a nice choppy idle. he put up 398rwhp with all the bolt ons but had it lowered to 388rwhp to get the a/f right, he also put up 380 rwtq. for the price its a good power adder. i personally went much bigger with the TR230/224 cam im still waiting to get headers to install both at once but i could push almost 420rwhp on my car with all the bolt ons through my stock rear. it all depends how big u wanna go.

bRa_DeN
02-19-2004, 02:47 AM
Originally posted by jrp
:werd: or pushing another spring to there limit, i think one guy was running some blue stripped 918's with an x2 :umm:

the hot cam fills a niche for a lot of people; sounds great, excellent spring life, mild lobes, and good mid range power, and a low cost.

i personally wouldnt buy one, but its not a bad cam persay. i'd go bigger on a more aggressive lobe and get more power under the curve then what could be accomplished with the hot cam.

good point, i dont mean to bash the hotcam it was my 2nd choice but that was a distant 2nd:)

Tuffass
02-23-2004, 03:36 AM
So how choppy of an idle does the TR225 compared to the HC?

jrp
02-23-2004, 03:42 AM
Originally posted by Tuffass
So how choppy of an idle does the TR225 compared to the HC?

if you get the tr224 on the 112 its very choppy :), and you'll have more power overall then the HC.

bRa_DeN
02-23-2004, 04:59 AM
in my opinon the tr224 on the 112 sounds better than the hotcam and yes i have the 224;)

gdu
02-23-2004, 05:14 AM
I disagree, but I have the HC.

bRa_DeN
02-23-2004, 05:16 AM
but those are the responses we are supposed to have right:D

jrp
02-23-2004, 05:17 AM
Originally posted by jeffgdula
I disagree, but I have the HC.

dissagree on the sound or the power?

bRa_DeN
02-23-2004, 05:22 AM
both of these cams sound equally good in their own way but the tr224 makes better power;)

gdu
02-23-2004, 06:02 AM
Originally posted by jrp
dissagree on the sound or the power?

sound. specs say the tr makes more power, but I am certainly not disappointed in my numbers.

jrp
02-23-2004, 06:11 AM
Originally posted by jeffgdula
sound. specs say the tr makes more power, but I am certainly not disappointed in my numbers.

agreed, your making excellent power for what you have, especially love the tq :cool:

and sound is objective anyways, the HC definately sounds mean.

bRa_DeN
02-23-2004, 06:41 AM
you are making great power with the cam you have:)

red99ls1ta
02-25-2004, 01:07 AM
sound clips of both cams? im debating weather or not to get my hotcam put in... its sitting in my hatch right now. whats a fair price to pay for ls6 springs install and the cam install?

gdu
02-25-2004, 01:24 AM
http://www.jeffgdula.com/Z28/images/sound.mpg

http://www.jeffgdula.com/Z28/images/MOV00385.MPG