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Pimp_Nas_T
07-29-2004, 01:10 AM
James Roth recently scammed me out of $350 for an LS6 intake manifold with coolant pipes and scammed rs99z28 out of $525 for a set of Jethot LT's with catted "Y" pipe **(http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=186316). rs99z28 and I recently made a phone call to James to get our money back. He imediately denied knowing anything about this scamm, and went on to say he would pay us out of his own pocket because he "knows how it feels to be scammed". We gave him 4 days to come up with the funds to refund our money. He agreed. Four days later we called him back to see what progress he made and he tried to talk his way out of refunding our money. He even made this statement "my room mates sister is the Dougherty County DA" - WTF! - The DA of Dougherty County is a man by the name of Kenneth B. Hodges III. rs99z28 and I have filed reports with our local authorities, and the FBI. We have talked to the Albany Police and the Dougherty County Sherifs Department as well.

**The above link had two post by James prior to the phone calls we made to him. After we spoke with James, he proceded with his usual tactics of deleting his post to try and cover his tracks. The following are the post he deleted:

Post 1:

"I live in Baconton which is about 15 miles from Albany, and I am thru there everyday, my PO box is located in Albany. I know the business you are talking about, it has been closed for several years, I used to know the owners. None of them had the last name of Penny though. The building has been up forsale since 96', and its pretty much a land fill. I am guessing maybe he used it just for that reason? Did you get any other information on him? Cause I am sure there can't that many Shawn Penny's in Albany. I am a honest seller and I expect others to do the same so I don't mind paying a visit, if someone can get me some info."

Post 2:

"The former owner has passes, and the business is no longer running and hasn't been for a long time, the family is currently trying to sell it."

What ever that second one means...

rs99z28 and I have been in contact with 2 people in the Albany area that know James Roth and Shawn Penny. Appearantly, James is the brains of the outfit as his friend Shawn has been described as "slow in the head" and "would do anything for James".

I would caution anyone that plans to do internet transactions in SW GA (or anywhere for that matter) to research the person you are buying from. James Roth has the tendancy to post his location in various parts of SW GA including but not limited to Thomasville, Albany, & Baconton. James Roth has been scamming people on the internet for quite some time now. Please visit the following links and see for your self:

www.ls1.com - do a search for James Roth

http://web.camaross.com/forums/showthread.php?t=215106&highlight=james+roth

http://www.camarov6.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=003695

HE EVEN TRIED TO FAKE HIS OWN DEATH!!!!

http://www.gafba.com/forum_viewtopic.php?14.2333

You can check him out at WWW.S10FORUM.COM, WWW.LS2.COM, WWW.LS1.COM, WWW.GAFBA.COM, and various other sites in the WWW.

James has many aliases including but not limited to:

FAST98SS350
PEWTERSS (WWW.LS2.COM *** PEWTERSS ON LS1TECH.COM IS NOT JAMES ROTH.)
PEWTERSS84 (WWW.LS1TECH.COM)
SoSloSoLow
ULTRAZ28
UltraZ28SOM
MISTSHAMAN
SPIRITWALKER
STACEY RICHARDSON
JAMES RICHARDSON
STACEY J. RICHARDSON

Email Addresses:

ultraz28SOM@aol.com
z28ssecret@aol.com
sunsetz282000@yahoo.com
jdroth@techie.com
fastss@insurer.com
mistshaman@aol.com
fast98ss@email.com
swga1984@yahoo.com

This is his home address:
James Roth
1803 Lily Pond Road
Albany, Ga. 31721

Other addresses:
402 Flint AVE
Albany, GA 31706

PO Box 4714
Albany, GA 31706

Here is an excerpt from an email he sent to a potential customer:

"One more time, I am not trying to hide a damn thing, my address is none of your business only my business address is needed for sales. You have my full fucking name, and my cell number. If I was a fucking scammer I would not offer to ship the fucking injectors to your fucking first then you fucking pay me after you fucking get the fucking things. If I was a fucking scammer I would not have gave you my fucking number. Hell if I was a scammer I would not be selling items like this I would be posting prochargers up for fucking sale and fucking pocketing the fucking money. I don't have time for this fucking shit for real, its freaking me out. I have to deal with 30+ fucking emails a day, I have been trying to sell these fucking injectors for over 3 fucking weeks now. I sit down and say ok I send them to you then you pay me and you can't fucking handle that, you want to say scammer? What the fuck is happening here? I am lost. I don't want a boyfreind all I want is for these 8 little plastic thingy's that pump fucking fuel to leave my desk, preferably to someone that will in return send me some fucking money. I am done now, I live on fucking pinewood ave. D3 (d for duplex) its a fucking subdivision. Do you need a urine sample as well? Maybe some stool? I can ship that along with the injectors if needed? Any semen? Ok now I'm done with my ran! t, no I don't feel better if your wondering. I just need to know where to send these things to, ya know what? I don't even care if you pay me for them anymoe I just want to stop the email tag b4 i sling my computer out the window. Thats right, free injectors! Address! Where to send!!!???!! ASAP They ship saturday! Tracking number comming your way! Have a nice day!"

Just so this email is not taken out of context, This is the question that was asked of James Roth before he sent his elaborate response:

"There you go trying to hide again James. If you can't tell me something as simple as who you are, you might as well be a scammer. 'Tons of people have sent M/O's and checks to my PO and no one has been ripped yet' Did you mean you are planning to "rip" somepeople or that you have before? How do I know the parts you are selling are not stolen? I guess now that you have stood me up twice and 'wasted my gas' by not answering your phone, and some of the things you've said in earlier emails, you can see why I want to know who I'm dealing with. Just tell me who you are and where you live and I'll do business with you."

Hardly the words of an *HONEST* businessman...

262 77
07-29-2004, 01:32 AM
Sent PM to PewterSS, awaiting response.

PewterSS
07-29-2004, 02:36 AM
AOC SS you have a pm also see http://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=198129

SSJohn
07-29-2004, 01:03 PM
Let me first start by saying that I have never had a bad transaction or good transaction with PewterSS (I'll explain later). So I cannot say whether he is a good seller or bad seller. But the following quotes are the emails sent between us regarding the purchase of a factory head unit:

PewterSS,

I'll take the head unit off your hands. Let me know how you want me to pay.

Thanks,

John

Sounds good. Send me the mailing address and I will get right on it.

My mailing address:

John Gallagher
************* (actual text removed)
************* (actual text removed)

Thanks,

John
-----Original Message-----
From: James Roth [mailto:swga1984@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 12:44 PM
To: Gallagher John M Contr AFRL/SNZW
Subject: Re: 2002 CD Player


Money order is fine, just make sure its a certified money order so it is trackable. If thats ok with you let me know so I can email you the mailing address. Thanks.


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This is where I start getting worried about the transaction.

I'm not comfortable sending $100 to a PO Box...especially if the name doesn't match your email address. Is there another way to do this?
-----Original Message-----
From: James Roth [mailto:swga1984@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 12:56 PM
To: Gallagher John M Contr AFRL/SNZW
Subject: RE: 2002 CD Player


Stacey Richardson

P.O. Box 4714

Albany, Ga. 31706



Let me know when you mail it please, thanks!



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Let me have your street address and phone number and I'll run a check. Sorry about being so cautious but I don't like to lose money.
-----Original Message-----
From: James Roth [mailto:swga1984@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 1:21 PM
To: Gallagher John M Contr AFRL/SNZW
Subject: RE: 2002 CD Player


Or I can give you my number, either way man.


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Notice that He/She/It changed the name associated with the email address to match the PO Box.

James,

I'd be comfortable with you sending it COD. US Postal Service is usually cheaper than UPS so you may want to check them out. Let me know the plan.

John
-----Original Message-----
From: Stacey Richardson [mailto:swga1984@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 2:39 AM
To: Gallagher John M Contr AFRL/SNZW
Subject: RE: 2002 CD Player




Gallagher John M Contr AFRL/SNZW <John.Gallagher@wpafb.af.mil> wrote:
Let me have your street address and phone number and I'll run a check. Sorry about being so cautious but I don't like to lose money.

Stacy Richarson wrote:
How about this, I had some problems with some people awhile back, actually to make a long story short, I sold a set of heads and a set of rims, along with a ECM, these guys were out of state so one paid me via paypal, and the other paid me money order, then I met up with them in Alabama, and exchanged parts. Then they made claims I did not ship them thier parts, which I had no shipping proof to show anyone since I did not ship them. I met up in person, I just now got this name registered and started selling again, I have a TON of parts to sell, which I am sure you have seen my posts all over ls2.com. If you give me a contact number and a name I will give you a call tommarrow and give you a complete run down, and I will give you my complete info, and even my SSN number if you want, or another option we have is we can do COD, another words you don't pay til UPS shows up with the item and you! see it for yourself. I am open to either option man, whichever works for you, but after this please don't post my name as a good seller if you want to post buyer feedback on me just post it as PewterSS and not James, thanks. I look forward to dealing with you.


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The emails kind of died off from here. I waited for the head unit to arrive COD and it never did. I emailed him/her/it recently and he/she/it claimed to have lost my contact information. So, as you can see, I never had a bad transaction with PewterSS but there were some warning signs that this transaction could have been bad.

Pimp_Nas_T
07-29-2004, 01:52 PM
When this guy was posing as Shawn Penny, He too stated that he would provide all of his contact info down to his SSN....

262 77
07-29-2004, 01:54 PM
Yup I agree with you SSJohn, I'm almost certain you would have lost your money.

I banned him when we were on LS1.Com, his screen name was UltraZ28SOM.

Had I known PewterSS was UltraZ28SOM, he would have been banned long time ago, we will not allow bad seller to be a member on this site.

He is now banned from this site to protect other buyers/traders.

MYSCZ06
07-29-2004, 02:24 PM
man this guys gets around

http://www.scfyb.com/forum/showthread.php?p=74172#post74172

http://www.scfyb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5137

http://www.scfyb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5274

good looking out P-N-T

Pimp_Nas_T
07-29-2004, 03:14 PM
Your not kidding.

he's been on ls1.com, ls2.com, ls1tech.com, gafba.com, ncfyb.com, camaroz28.com, s10forum.com - to name a few.

striker
07-29-2004, 06:12 PM
damn i just about bought a stall from him. i was gonna give him the money in like 2 days. shit im glad this happened when it did. he wouldnt do the transaction through paypal so that kinda had me worried....:(

eboggs_jkvl
07-29-2004, 07:08 PM
Edwin,

Let this guy and any related IDs swim with the fishes.

Elmer

Zed
07-29-2004, 07:14 PM
http://www.ls2.com/.zed/nemo.jpg

fbodlovr
08-03-2004, 04:38 AM
Holly crap im glad I saw this. I was gonna buy that ss spoiler that he had on here about a week ago, and i told him id buy it this week coming up. ANd i told him to put in the thread that it was sold. Instead he took the thread down. THANK GOD i found this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PEWTERSS, GO TO HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!! You little fudge packin fag!!!!!!!!! Hahahah, cant say much nowwwww because your a loser, and your ace is :buttkick: banned sucka!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA

00pewterz
08-15-2004, 08:56 PM
Yeah i almost bought an ASP pulley from this guy, but he gave me an adress to send the money order to, and then 2 days later. He sent me an adress from another state to send it to. So I told him he was crazy, and he said people move all of the time. So I just left him alone.

Hobbes
08-28-2004, 06:21 PM
Well, I hate to say it, but after years of buying stuff from people on the Net I've been had.

Stacey Richardson, or what ever the hell the guys name is took me for 165 bucks. We had an agreement that he would sell me a used Power Programmer and a 160 Thermo. I didn't see this posting until it was too late :(

Now I have to figure out how to get my money back. I'm thinking I will call the local authorities and see if they have any information on this guy. I'm hoping I can nail the guy with mail fraud and some other charges.

BadBlueBird
08-29-2004, 12:16 AM
Originally posted by Hobb3s
Well, I hate to say it, but after years of buying stuff from people on the Net I've been had.

Stacey Richardson, or what ever the hell the guys name is took me for 165 bucks. We had an agreement that he would sell me a used Power Programmer and a 160 Thermo. I didn't see this posting until it was too late :(

Now I have to figure out how to get my money back. I'm thinking I will call the local authorities and see if they have any information on this guy. I'm hoping I can nail the guy with mail fraud and some other charges.

Where did you buy the item from? here?

Hobbes
08-29-2004, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by BadBlueBird
Where did you buy the item from? here?

Yup, but this was all before he was banned.

Harley-Davidson88
08-31-2004, 06:52 PM
Wow!! I must have gotten lucky! I bought a CD head unit from this dude. Everything turned out alright for me. :dunno:

Hobbes
08-31-2004, 07:38 PM
I don't suppose you have any info on this guy? Like his home number or the town the he really lives in?

Harley-Davidson88
09-01-2004, 04:31 PM
Originally posted by Hobb3s
I don't suppose you have any info on this guy? Like his home number or the town the he really lives in?

Sorry, I don't have any of the emails anymore. We only had contact through email. I could be wrong, but I thought I sent the money order to Bocanton, GA. :dunno:

Hobbes
09-02-2004, 07:35 PM
I guess I'll give the local authorities a call and see if they can help me out.

CARdiac
11-12-2004, 02:31 AM
Has anyone heard from this @ss, he sent me a set of warped headers!!! Won't respond to emails. He gave a home # of 229-291-1217 but I get VM and no response.. his address claim Albany, GA