'08 G8 GT 1/4 mile numbers in!! WOW!!

[Macky Sasser]

http://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?p=9030813&posted=1#post9030813

[Kata Skopos]

not bad considering its been out for a week or so :o

i see 12.XXX in the future :cool: :D

[Heracles]

Wow, 13.1 @ 107. The Ponitac excitement is back!!! :cool:

[LS1redline]

Didn't think it would be quite that fast.:cool:

[NoRiceInside]

:Picard: this means nothing being at atco

[Nick7810]

Originally posted by NoRiceInside
:Picard: this means nothing being at atco

Whats the deal with atco?

[Verbs]

Originally posted by FLEX
Wow, 13.1 @ 107. The Ponitac excitement is back!!! :cool: slow your roll, that's with a tune.

[Nick7810]

I'm sure A6 is helping.

[Nick7810]

Originally posted by vyrbs
slow your roll, that's with a tune.

:inout:

[46CALLAWAY]

Atco is probably the fastest track in the country. This car will run low 14's/high 13's at my local track.

[NoRiceInside]

Originally posted by #88
Whats the deal with atco? this time of year its giving the car atleast a .2 edge with the DA. so that puts it at 13.6 and thats what that car should do on a good day :shrug:

[Cerwin Vega Fan]

Damn good times for a big 4dr sedan.

[George El Dorado]

Very impressive. GXP and Camaro should really move out.

Originally posted by vyrbs
slow your roll, that's with a tune.

BFD. My dead grandma could tune a new car.

[Macky Sasser]

Originally posted by 46CALLAWAY
Atco is probably the fastest track in the country. This car will run low 14's/high 13's at my local track.

Atco isn't a 'fast' track. Their is nothing magical about it. Its in NJ and they stay open during the colder months, thats the only advantage.

FWIW we had an '04 A4 GTO that went 13.59 @ 103 MPH at Atco and when I posted those times several years ago lots of guys discredited it because it was at Atco.

As luck would have it the wife and I moved 550 miles south and the car made a trip to Rockingham Dragway in NC and actually ran better, 13.47 @ 103.XX. So much for the magic of Atco, eh?

My '02 Z28 is a stock automatic car and ran a 12.95 bone stock. I'm not sure exactly where that ranks among stock FBodies, but I'm fairly certain its the quickest stock auto LS1 FBody. I didn't run that at Atco, that was also done at Rockingham.

People who doubt the times out of Atco need to go there. Take a look at the type of people who race there during the winter months. The Atco guys tend to be much more detail oriented. They just don't show up at the line with extra weight, crap tires etc. I think the guys that run well at Atco are just more educated/experienced racers.

[NoRiceInside]

Originally posted by Macky Sasser
Atco isn't a 'fast' track. Their is nothing magical about it. Its in NJ and they stay open during the colder months, thats the only advantage.



umm the Rock can turn the same DA's as Atco, granted for less months.


Originally posted by Macky Sasser

People who doubt the times out of Atco need to go there. Take a look at the type of people who race there during the winter months. The Atco guys tend to be much more detail oriented. They just don't show up at the line with extra weight, crap tires etc. I think the guys that run well at Atco are just more educated/experienced racers. :bs: been to just about every track in teh US and other than more high end street cars in the northeast its the same every where

[Heracles]

Originally posted by vyrbs
slow your roll, that's with a tune.

Yeah, and a tune aint much. Still super impressive. Can you say high 12s with few more bolt ons/ bucks?

[Marklar]

I just seriously evaluated buying this car today..the wife and I just got back. The local Pontiac dealer up here has a black on black one. It's fucking :drool: ..i cant stop talking about how badass the car was in black. The dealership had a $6,100 markup on it bringing the cost to $38K. I sat down with the salesman and tried to work out a deal since it wasn't *exactly* what I wanted. (i want the two-tone onyx/red leather interior and a sunroof). I was told you cant even order these cars yet so whatever's out there is what you get to choose from. After some heavy consideration, i walked.

I will own one. I just need to be able to order what I want or some dealership has to get one in. Thats BIG money for that car, though..$38K is ridiculous. I was pretty impressed overall..it could use more options (navigation primarily) but its so goddamn good-looking its hard to find fault anywhere. If it really is that quick it just reinforced my decision to buy one. :)

[WCFields]

Originally posted by marklar
I just seriously evaluated buying this car today..the wife and I just got back. The local Pontiac dealer up here has a black on black one. It's fucking :drool: ..i cant stop talking about how badass the car was in black. The dealership had a $6,100 markup on it bringing the cost to $38K. I sat down with the salesman and tried to work out a deal since it wasn't *exactly* what I wanted. (i want the two-tone onyx/red leather interior and a sunroof). I was told you cant even order these cars yet so whatever's out there is what you get to choose from. After some heavy consideration, i walked.

I will own one. I just need to be able to order what I want or some dealership has to get one in. Thats BIG money for that car, though..$38K is ridiculous. I was pretty impressed overall..it could use more options (navigation primarily) but its so goddamn good-looking its hard to find fault anywhere. If it really is that quick it just reinforced my decision to buy one. :) A markup on that car is asinine. Wait until they fill the lots up in time and they don't move due to the cost of gas and they'll be dealing under invoice on em.

[keliente]

Originally posted by marklar
I just seriously evaluated buying this car today..the wife and I just got back. The local Pontiac dealer up here has a black on black one. It's fucking :drool: ..i cant stop talking about how badass the car was in black. The dealership had a $6,100 markup on it bringing the cost to $38K. I sat down with the salesman and tried to work out a deal since it wasn't *exactly* what I wanted. (i want the two-tone onyx/red leather interior and a sunroof). I was told you cant even order these cars yet so whatever's out there is what you get to choose from. After some heavy consideration, i walked.

I will own one. I just need to be able to order what I want or some dealership has to get one in. Thats BIG money for that car, though..$38K is ridiculous. I was pretty impressed overall..it could use more options (navigation primarily) but its so goddamn good-looking its hard to find fault anywhere. If it really is that quick it just reinforced my decision to buy one. :)

omg...that markup is freaking ridiculous.

[Marklar]

Originally posted by keliente
omg...that markup is freaking ridiculous.

yeah it was there because of the fact it's one of the "first 888"..they had a red GT there that wasn't and it had more options and was still $32K. The markup was purely because of it being a "first 888" version. :thumbdn:
BFD i say. I just couldnt pay that much more money for it while the red GT was $32K and had every option i wanted...but it was fucking RED. :thumbdn:
I'll wait till i can get one with all the options. They've got to be adding NAV to later models..I really cant believe they didnt inclide it yet gave the car a fricken 6" LCD stereo. :nosulk:
You *can* get turn-by-turn navigation on the G8, but it's in the form of Onstar.
The car is almost 100% there as far as my preferences go.

How do you like yours? MPG estimates yet?

[DrFrag]

Originally posted by marklar

I'll wait till i can get one with all the options. They've got to be adding NAV to later models..I really cant believe they didnt inclide it yet gave the car a fricken 6" LCD stereo. :nosulk:


dont count on it, where the radio is situated, GM cannot legally put in a nav system in the car...it would need to be raised. in other words, the entire center console would need to be redesigned.

it doesnt make any sense, the car was built with "america in mind" but then they go and design the center console like that :boggled:

[keliente]

Originally posted by marklar
yeah it was there because of the fact it's one of the "first 888"..they had a red GT there that wasn't and it had more options and was still $32K. The markup was purely because of it being a "first 888" version. :thumbdn:
BFD i say. I just couldnt pay that much more money for it while the red GT was $32K and had every option i wanted...but it was fucking RED. :thumbdn:
I'll wait till i can get one with all the options. They've got to be adding NAV to later models..I really cant believe they didnt inclide it yet gave the car a fricken 6" LCD stereo. :nosulk:
You *can* get turn-by-turn navigation on the G8, but it's in the form of Onstar.
The car is almost 100% there as far as my preferences go.

How do you like yours? MPG estimates yet?

$6100 is just nuts. It's just a family sedan for chrissakes :lol:

I :love: mine, but I would not have paid any mark up on it. That would have definitely been a deal breaker. If I could not find one without mark up, I would have ordered exactly what I wanted...so it wouldn't have been '888'...it's not a big deal. You get a cool VIN and your dash says 'first 888'...being the way cars depreciate so hard, it won't make a difference. If anything the '09 G8s will probably come with more cool features anyway :cool:

I have not taken mine on any highway trips, so 100% of my driving is city. I am seeing about 17mpg now. No it's not the best, but the car totally makes up for it.

[Marklar]

Originally posted by keliente
$6100 is just nuts. It's just a family sedan for chrissakes :lol:

I :love: mine, but I would not have paid any mark up on it. That would have definitely been a deal breaker. If I could not find one without mark up, I would have ordered exactly what I wanted...so it wouldn't have been '888'...it's not a big deal. You get a cool VIN and your dash says 'first 888'...being the way cars depreciate so hard, it won't make a difference. If anything the '09 G8s will probably come with more cool features anyway :cool:

I have not taken mine on any highway trips, so 100% of my driving is city. I am seeing about 17mpg now. No it's not the best, but the car totally makes up for it.

I noticed you said your interior was kindof cheap-feeling and interior-guys wouldn't really like it. I'm an interior-guy. ;) I thought it wasn't bad, but my VERY first impression was that I was hoping for more quality. It was designed nice, but there were a number of cheap-feeling/looking surfaces. I got the impression the "chrome" trim around the dash surfaces would peel off and flake in a couple years. Not that it would in reality, but it just seemed like it. Overall it grew on me a bit the longer i sat in there - how is the interior noise though? I didnt drive it but the car felt pretty solid. Does it creak and rattle over bumps and/or railroad tracks etc., or is it solid & quiet? I cant stand interiors that rattle. Any wind-noise with it all buttoned-up?

[TK_05]

That's a mid 14 at LVMS.

[keliente]

Originally posted by marklar
I noticed you said your interior was kindof cheap-feeling and interior-guys wouldn't really like it. I'm an interior-guy. ;) I thought it wasn't bad, but my VERY first impression was that I was hoping for more quality. It was designed nice, but there were a number of cheap-feeling/looking surfaces. I got the impression the "chrome" trim around the dash surfaces would peel off and flake in a couple years. Not that it would in reality, but it just seemed like it. Overall it grew on me a bit the longer i sat in there - how is the interior noise though? I didnt drive it but the car felt pretty solid. Does it creak and rattle over bumps and/or railroad tracks etc., or is it solid & quiet? I cant stand interiors that rattle. Any wind-noise with it all buttoned-up?

It has grown on me in the couple weeks that I've had it - at first I was not impressed though. I like the leather wrapped stuff - like the shift knob, door panels..etc what I don't like is the ridiculous oil pressure/battery voltage in the center console. Being that it is made of huge pixels, it just looks very 80's to me. And then you have this really nice, modern looking LCD screen 6" below it :hmm: Overall it looks nice though.

It's very quiet inside. It doesn't creak or rattle...you can carry on a conversation at a whisper if you like. The car feels VERY solid.

[Tristan]

Originally posted by Spencer
Is it a faster track than HRP?


doutbful. I :love: HRP

[kasim]

Originally posted by pass dimeo
dont count on it, where the radio is situated, GM cannot legally put in a nav system in the car...it would need to be raised. in other words, the entire center console would need to be redesigned.

it doesnt make any sense, the car was built with "america in mind" but then they go and design the center console like that :boggled:

You know though.

The aussie one does have a nav option. I really wonder how hard it would be to order the aussie part and just stick it in. I mean the only thing i can see stopping it is if they dont have north american dvds.

[DrFrag]

Originally posted by kasim
You know though.

The aussie one does have a nav option. I really wonder how hard it would be to order the aussie part and just stick it in. I mean the only thing i can see stopping it is if they dont have north american dvds.

true. maybe some after market company will decide to do so? :xfings:

[Marklar]

Originally posted by pass dimeo
true. maybe some after market company will decide to do so? :xfings:


...................dont count on it, where the radio is situated, GM cannot legally put in a nav system in the car...it would need to be raised. in other words, the entire center console would need to be redesigned.

http://www.ls2.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=620301

:shrug:


As far as the legal stipulations for the location of the NAV unit (too low) doesnt the Vette have a Nav unit in the exact same place? Its definitely not upper-dash, its right in the middle like the G8. :think:

[kasim]

Originally posted by marklar
http://www.ls2.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=620301

:shrug:


As far as the legal stipulations for the location of the NAV unit (too low) doesnt the Vette have a Nav unit in the exact same place? Its definitely not upper-dash, its right in the middle like the G8. :think:

Vette you sit much lower in.

If you like at the new WRX/STi they moved the nav up and dropped the hvac vents down.

I assume it was for the line of sight.

[carpenter]

I would be curious if I could drop my Avic D3 in once a dash kit was made available.

[DaveX]

Impressive times for such a big car. If I had one I'd be motivated to be the first to put it in the 12's tune only.

:)

[Heracles]

Why are there markups only at some dealerships?

At my local Pontiac dealer, http://www.abeloff.com/home.aspx?bhcp=1 they have the white G8 GT and the sticker is $31K. No markup..

Its suck a fuking deal imho. Thing that burns my ass, is that I always said when I spent so much $$ on a car, especially new one, it would have everthing I wanted (nav and satellite radio)..so thats the only issues I have with it..

[Nick7810]

As my uncle would say, if you need navigation you are stupid and if you are stupid you won't know how to use navigation.:D

[Verbs]

Originally posted by FLEX
Yeah, and a tune aint much. How do you know flex? Oh that's right, you don't. This car runs a 13.4 at one of the fastest tracks in the nation, it's still slower than a GTO, and you guys are all impressed by this?

[keliente]

Originally posted by FLEX
Why are there markups only at some dealerships?

At my local Pontiac dealer, http://www.abeloff.com/home.aspx?bhcp=1 they have the white G8 GT and the sticker is $31K. No markup..

Its suck a fuking deal imho. Thing that burns my ass, is that I always said when I spent so much $$ on a car, especially new one, it would have everthing I wanted (nav and satellite radio)..so thats the only issues I have with it..

Some dealerships have markups because there is always someone who will pay that extra $$ to have the next hot thing. In some areas more than others.

When I bought mine they said it'd be getting a $2500 markup the next day (not that it would have still been there by then). Would have been a dealbreaker for me.

[Macky Sasser]

Originally posted by NoRiceInside
umm the Rock can turn the same DA's as Atco, granted for less months.

:bs: been to just about every track in teh US and other than more high end street cars in the northeast its the same every where


So if the Rock can turn the same DA's at Atco, than why is this G8 time being discredited because its at Atco?

[Macky Sasser]

Originally posted by 92LT1RS
doutbful. I :love: HRP

HRP is a great track in cooler weather. Raughhammer went 11.9X in his '98 Z28 years back before their were tuning options and with a Vig 2800 stall. He was one of the first LS1s to push the performance envelope and his magic was worked at HRP.

[Macky Sasser]

Originally posted by vyrbs
How do you know flex? Oh that's right, you don't. This car runs a 13.4 at one of the fastest tracks in the nation, it's still slower than a GTO, and you guys are all impressed by this?

Verbs, come on. This is a totally different car than a GTO. The GTO has a useless trunk and a backseat thats very difficult to get into/out of it.

The G8 is an ideal car for long trips, the trunk/back seat is HUGE.

Maybe Kelly can post some better picture of hers to show you guys just how big the backseat is. Shaq and Yao Ming could sit back there without an issue.

[MapleRed]

Very impressive. I was expecting to see Charger R/T type times from these and its actually quicker. Very nice. :cool:

[NoRiceInside]

Originally posted by Macky Sasser
So if the Rock can turn the same DA's at Atco, than why is this G8 time being discredited because its at Atco? because the rock is on the short list of tracks along with atco that get killer DA this time of year.

the world record run that i was a part of was even at the rock :p

[Iowas Finest]

Originally posted by NoRiceInside
because the rock is on the short list of tracks along with atco that get killer DA this time of year.

the world record run that i was a part was even at the rock :p

dont hate

appreciate:badpost:

[HybridZ28]

Originally posted by NoRiceInside
the world record run that i was a part was even at the rock :p

omg u are so cool :drool:

[NoRiceInside]

Originally posted by HybridZ28
omg u are so cool :drool: i know

[426HEMI]

Originally posted by marklar
I just seriously evaluated buying this car today..the wife and I just got back. The local Pontiac dealer up here has a black on black one. It's fucking :drool: ..i cant stop talking about how badass the car was in black. The dealership had a $6,100 markup on it bringing the cost to $38K. I sat down with the salesman and tried to work out a deal since it wasn't *exactly* what I wanted. (i want the two-tone onyx/red leather interior and a sunroof). I was told you cant even order these cars yet so whatever's out there is what you get to choose from. After some heavy consideration, i walked.

I will own one. I just need to be able to order what I want or some dealership has to get one in. Thats BIG money for that car, though..$38K is ridiculous. I was pretty impressed overall..it could use more options (navigation primarily) but its so goddamn good-looking its hard to find fault anywhere. If it really is that quick it just reinforced my decision to buy one. :)

:spit:

That dealer is a fucking moron and is smoking crack. $6k+ markup. What an idiot. :lol:

[Marklar]

Originally posted by 426HEMI
:spit:

That dealer is a fucking moron and is smoking crack. $6k+ markup. What an idiot. :lol:

:yup:

..and the car is still there. Gee I wonder why.

[wickedss]

Will be high 13's / low 14's for most guys...

Tune + 'one' of the faster tracks around...makes a difference.

[byebyebye]

Nice times for sure. I think that was at a rental last week, I had some friends there if its the say I'm thinking of.

Atco doesn't count :cry:

[HSV-GTS-300]

News from Oz

VE SS = Same basic hardware as a G8 GT (when stock) but with no AFM gear.
Mods listed below.


"SSEnforcers VE SS A6 did a best of 12.022s on the weekend at WSID, we think this is a best for a stock stalled A6 VE.

Its race weight was 1790kg with driver. [4010 lbs]
It consistently ran 12.0- most of the day and was using Hoosier Drag Radials on Omega rims and brakes. It still had its aftermarket 20" rims on the front.
The car has a 224 228 114 cam, Imported CNC'd L92 heads, large 4 into1s, 2.92 stock diff, Charlies Orssom Intake (no filter). Oztrack Mafless Tuned.
312rwkw [420+ RWHP]

The data of the best run was
1.921, 12.022/117.7mph with 20deg C [68F] ambient temps and 1027 pressure. 14 deg C [57F] dewpoint.

WE were disappointed it didnt get into the 11.9s. The pass however weather corrects at the same weight to 11.978/118.1 mph - so its just a matter of racing on a better day and maybe with some front runners."

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/New%20Holdens/P3020286.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/New%20Holdens/P3020333.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/New%20Holdens/DSC_7801.jpg

[techium]

Atco isn't a fast track I ran the same times I did at Englishtown as I did Atco.

[QWIKLS1]

Cool car. :cool:

[Spectre]

Originally posted by keliente
what I don't like is the ridiculous oil pressure/battery voltage in the center console. Being that it is made of huge pixels, it just looks very 80's to me.


Yes, what a worthless use of dash space... would've been nice to have just about anything else here. Its the first thing my dad noticed when he got into the car and he said it look horrible too.

Originally posted by keliente

It's very quiet inside. It doesn't creak or rattle...you can carry on a conversation at a whisper if you like. The car feels VERY solid.

I agree with this - the car feels like a tank. It's much quieter than a GP GXP, though that might be partially due to the tires. I'm keeping the G8 GXP on my radar... I'm considering getting one when/if they come out....

[NHRATA01]

Originally posted by techium
Atco isn't a fast track I ran the same times I did at Englishtown as I did Atco.

They're both two of the fastest tracks, but Atco tends to always have good prep and they're not stingy with the VHT. ETown tends to be hit or miss.