Pontiac G8 Navigation [Archive]

1badls2goat

02-24-2008, 09:30 PM

Originally posted by Berman
if i wanted one, i would not buy it without nav. but, sad to say, i am to snobby to buy any pontiac, no matter how nice :o

:Picard: you deserve a Picard on that one...at least you admit it, though...

Harmon Rabb

02-24-2008, 09:34 PM

Originally posted by 1badls2goat
:Picard: you deserve a Picard on that one...at least you admit it, though...

honestly, it's not so much that I personally am snobby, it's that everybody i know is :lol: i'd rather not have my friends all laugh at me :o

why do i have a sinking feeling this is opening a gigantic can of worms? :Picard: let's end the discussion of my snobbery right here and now :kiss:

NONo443

02-24-2008, 09:50 PM

Originally posted by Berman

why do i have a sinking feeling this is opening a gigantic can of worms? :Picard:

What's new there? :p

Element

02-24-2008, 10:02 PM

The G8 doesn't come with optional navi?

:boggled:

Seriously, what the fuck GM? Are you TRYING to go backwards while everyone else goes forwards?

Element

02-24-2008, 10:05 PM

Originally posted by 1badls2goat
:Picard: you deserve a Picard on that one...at least you admit it, though...

What's Pontiac had that's really impressive?

Nothing, since 2002. You say Pontiac and most people instantly think of a tobacco-chewing mullet-sporting redneck in a Burt Reynolds Bandit.

Sort of funny, because wasn't it Lutz who said they wouldn't be bringing the Firebird back because Pontiac was going to be GM's BMW competitor division, and the Firebird didn't have the "upscale appeal" they wanted associated with Pontiac? :spit:

Quadcammer

02-24-2008, 10:06 PM

Originally posted by Berman
honestly, it's not so much that I personally am snobby, it's that everybody i know is :lol: i'd rather not have my friends all laugh at me :o

why do i have a sinking feeling this is opening a gigantic can of worms? :Picard: let's end the discussion of my snobbery right here and now :kiss:

Don't be ashamed. Be proud of your snobbery. You have expensive taste, and there is nothing wrong with that.

Heracles

02-24-2008, 10:50 PM

Right now if you buy a NEW car, and spend close to $30,000 it would be utterly retarded not to come with a navigation system... That IMHO though..Its a nice feature to have, that in most scenarios also includes BUILT IN Satellite Radio..which is also NICE..

Harmon Rabb

02-24-2008, 11:44 PM

Originally posted by Quadcammer
Don't be ashamed. Be proud of your snobbery. You have expensive taste, and there is nothing wrong with that.

i've become so cheap of late that if i wouldn't get shit for it, i'd buy a yaris with no options and drive it until the wheels fall off :bwahaha:

Quadcammer

02-25-2008, 12:10 AM

Originally posted by Berman
i've become so cheap of late that if i wouldn't get shit for it, i'd buy a yaris with no options and drive it until the wheels fall off :bwahaha:

im starting to go the other way a bit.

Jeffro

02-25-2008, 12:29 AM

Originally posted by Berman
people don't think of corvettes in the same light as they do other chevrolets :shrug: pontiacs, however... what is pontiac's flagship car? :think:

So you only care what other people think. Gotcha.

Kata Skopos

02-25-2008, 12:52 AM

Originally posted by Quadcammer
im starting to go the other way a bit.

theres nothing wrong with wanting nice things, but not buying something you want becuase people will make fun of you is gay as aids

krispycobalt

02-25-2008, 01:24 AM

not a deal breaker to me and I am looking at one, but I do think it should be an option

NHRATA01

02-25-2008, 02:31 AM

Originally posted by needcash
theres nothing wrong with wanting nice things, but not buying something you want becuase people will make fun of you is gay as aids

:stupid2:

Seriously what are we back in 6th grade? I have to have those $150 Air Jordan's because if I have a $40 Reebok, everyone will make fun of me. Reminds me of my 13 y/o brother in law who HAS to have $80 ripped Hollister jeans.

Buy what you want because you fucking want it, not because you need validation from shallow people.

kasim

02-25-2008, 02:36 AM

Originally posted by FLEX
Right now if you buy a NEW car, and spend close to $30,000 it would be utterly retarded not to come with a navigation system... That IMHO though..Its a nice feature to have, that in most scenarios also includes BUILT IN Satellite Radio..which is also NICE..

See thats my thought .... if i buy a car over 30k ... it has to have nav period.

I COULD even settle for maybe puting it in myself.

That being said .... they supposedly didnt add it because of US regulations. I wonder how much it would be then to just buy one from Australia for the commodore then install it yourself.

But then i'd lose the sat radio

kasim

02-25-2008, 02:38 AM

FWIW ... my list of next cars was going back between a hybrid and a performance oriented car. (my mix never makes any sense) ... this was on the short list (well the GXP version) till i found out about the nav

Blade

02-25-2008, 04:36 AM

Should at least be an option.

Harmon Rabb

02-25-2008, 12:45 PM

Originally posted by Quadcammer
im starting to go the other way a bit.

not me. :shrug: i guess with the economy going to shit and with the hit i took on that townhouse i never should have bought, all i want to do lately is amass money and not spend it. :shrug:

Harmon Rabb

02-25-2008, 12:49 PM

Originally posted by NHRATA01
:stupid2:

Seriously what are we back in 6th grade? I have to have those $150 Air Jordan's because if I have a $40 Reebok, everyone will make fun of me. Reminds me of my 13 y/o brother in law who HAS to have $80 ripped Hollister jeans.

Buy what you want because you fucking want it, not because you need validation from shallow people.

i'd be curious as to the age and income bracket of the people saying this stuff to me. my guess is early 20's and under 50k.

it's a little different when you're older, depending on the income level of your peers. if you had a friend who made good money, yet lived in a dilapidated single wide trailer out in bumpkinville for $200/mo, wouldn't you wonder what the fuck was wrong with him? yeah, it wouldn't stop you from being his friend, but you would wonder why the hell he didn't get himself a better place. it's sort of the same thing with cars :shrug:

BishopSS

02-25-2008, 12:55 PM

I could see no Nav in the Impala

so just rebadge it please.

mrgto

02-25-2008, 01:01 PM

One on hand I would love to have Nav in the car that I don't have to move around from car to car but it is a very expensive option.

I ended up with a Garmin but I do have to move it from car to car, take it out of the car, recharge it, etc.

Element

02-25-2008, 01:25 PM

Originally posted by kasim
See thats my thought .... if i buy a car over 30k ... it has to have nav period.

I COULD even settle for maybe puting it in myself.

That being said .... they supposedly didnt add it because of US regulations. I wonder how much it would be then to just buy one from Australia for the commodore then install it yourself.

But then i'd lose the sat radio

Then why do so many other cars in the US have it?

mrgto

02-25-2008, 01:32 PM

Originally posted by Element
Then why do so many other cars in the US have it?

The design of the dash didn't fit the US Regulations for Navigation units. IT is kind of stupid too since the car was designed for the US in mind. Thankfully a dash is easy to update after a year or two.

kasim

02-25-2008, 02:02 PM

Originally posted by mrgto
The design of the dash didn't fit the US Regulations for Navigation units. IT is kind of stupid too since the car was designed for the US in mind. Thankfully a dash is easy to update after a year or two.

:werd: ... its just like why they dont have a manual.

I mean ... i really do understand why they didnt do it.

They have to see how well the car sells, etc. Cause your choices right now would be (if they had done it) ....

1) Add it to a bunch of cars and then have the GM problem of overloading their cars with stuff people dont want, driving up the price, lowering consumer wants.

2) Custom orders .... which being from australia would take quite a long time. And many wouldnt do it.

I'd imagine if it becomes a descent selling vehicle they will

NHRATA01

02-25-2008, 04:33 PM

Originally posted by Berman
i'd be curious as to the age and income bracket of the people saying this stuff to me. my guess is early 20's and under 50k.

it's a little different when you're older, depending on the income level of your peers. if you had a friend who made good money, yet lived in a dilapidated single wide trailer out in bumpkinville for $200/mo, wouldn't you wonder what the fuck was wrong with him? yeah, it wouldn't stop you from being his friend, but you would wonder why the hell he didn't get himself a better place. it's sort of the same thing with cars :shrug:

And your guess would be wrong. Try late 20s and a fair bit more than your estimate.

Generally most of the older and more wealthy folks I know could care less about impressing others with their wealth. That tends to be a character trait exhibited more by the young and immature.

Ironcially when there was that thread about LS2 "ballas", the older guys who actually do quite well generally don't make a point of reminding you. It's the younger crew in their 20s, such as yourself and a couple other notable members, that do.

kasim

02-25-2008, 04:38 PM

Originally posted by NHRATA01
And your guess would be wrong. Try late 20s and a fair bit more than your estimate.

Generally most of the older and more wealthy folks I know could care less about impressing others with their wealth. That tends to be a character trait exhibited more by the young and immature.

Ironcially when there was that thread about LS2 "ballas", the older guys who actually do quite well generally don't make a point of reminding you. It's the younger crew in their 20s, such as yourself and a couple other notable members, that do.

:werd: ... i could care less what my friends think of my car, and they them.

The only pass i give Berman on, is with his job, he does need to show a level of class when taking around partners or clients etc. And that i can understand.

With me its the reverse, I need to make sure my clients DONT think i make too much or they will give me less.

Quadcammer

02-25-2008, 04:51 PM

Originally posted by NHRATA01
And your guess would be wrong. Try late 20s and a fair bit more than your estimate.

Generally most of the older and more wealthy folks I know could care less about impressing others with their wealth. That tends to be a character trait exhibited more by the young and immature.

Ironcially when there was that thread about LS2 "ballas", the older guys who actually do quite well generally don't make a point of reminding you. It's the younger crew in their 20s, such as yourself and a couple other notable members, that do.

people making between 100k and 200k in their 40s are not ballers. People under 30 with the aforementioned income are more "baller"

IMPOSTER

02-25-2008, 05:12 PM

I'd consider one even without it (but they should have). :D

NHRATA01

02-25-2008, 05:13 PM

Originally posted by Quadcammer
people making between 100k and 200k in their 40s are not ballers. People under 30 with the aforementioned income are more "baller"

Well, I say this in the least conceited way possible but I would meet your baller criteria, and I consider myself the furthest thing from one. To me if you're making that salary range, one would be wiser to pay cash for a $35k new Pontiac (or $35k used E-class) than pony up to a 5 year note at 6.9% on a new M3 just because you need validation from others that you are successful. Some of the richest folks on the Forbes list drive the most mundane vehicles.

If a $35k car is as comfortable, as nimble, as fast, as reliable, as well built, as feature filled at a $70k car, the only difference being a badge and the inflated ego it brings, then the old saying about a fool and his money come to mind. And no, I'm not blind enough to think any Pontiac is worthy of mention along side a 3 series or 5 series. Offered them for the same price, I'd likely take the Bimmer every time. But to say I would ignore a potentially great car simply because my friends would laugh at me would mean I've got a pretty fragile ego.

kasim

02-25-2008, 05:41 PM

Originally posted by Quadcammer
people making between 100k and 200k in their 40s are not ballers. People under 30 with the aforementioned income are more "baller"

what if you are IN your 30s?

scottyboost

02-25-2008, 09:19 PM

I made it to age 39 without ever using a nav system. They're cool, but I can't justify the expense and would rather have go-fast goodies or the cash in my pocket.

Checkmate

02-25-2008, 09:45 PM

I'd guess the majority of people bitching on this site have not considered the G8 for their next car, nav or no nav. :shrug:

CT Morgan

02-25-2008, 09:47 PM

Originally posted by Checkmate
I'd guess the majority of people bitching on this site have not considered the G8 for their next car, nav or no nav. :shrug:

Not until a GXP model comes out.

TOPPED_OUT

02-25-2008, 09:50 PM

Originally posted by CT Morgan
Not until a GXP model comes out.

Yup. I'd definately wait until the GXP comes out at the very least to see what the exact pricing is going to be. For that matter, I wouldn't drive a G8 in auto-trim so the GXP would be the only way to go.

It's just cool to see 300hp+ RWD cars still being made...whether by GM, Dodge, Ford, etc....

CT Morgan

02-25-2008, 09:55 PM

Originally posted by TOPPED_OUT
It's just cool to see 300hp+ RWD cars still being made...whether by GM, Dodge, Ford, etc....

Damn right!! Who knows if it will last, but I personally think it's great!

byebyebye

02-25-2008, 11:41 PM

I don't understand why everyone is obsessing over these navigation systems :huh: How often are you driving in the car where you are in a situation that you actually NEED one? Its just a cool gadget for people.

Boz

02-25-2008, 11:46 PM

Originally posted by Checkmate
I'd guess the majority of people bitching on this site have not considered the G8 for their next car, nav or no nav. :shrug:

I'm definitely considering it, and I damn sure wish it had NAV.

I drive a G6 GTP and use a TomTom so it would be a logical progression. :hmm:

DarkPhoenix

02-26-2008, 12:16 AM

NAV is way overpriced for me. Seems like a neat thing to play with though. I had no idea people were so hard core about NAV...

kasim

02-26-2008, 02:28 AM

Originally posted by aliwantsnss
I don't understand why everyone is obsessing over these navigation systems :huh: How often are you driving in the car where you are in a situation that you actually NEED one? Its just a cool gadget for people.

Fairly often actually .... again ... you decide suddenly you want to go somewhere,get sushi, or the other day i needed to go to go to kinkos from work. Worked great to find all the locations.

best is on road trips .... you are driving down the freeway, want to know what the fast food resteraunts coming up, it can detect food, gas, hotel along the route.

Harmon Rabb

02-26-2008, 02:30 AM

Originally posted by kasim
:werd: ... i could care less what my friends think of my car, and they them.

The only pass i give Berman on, is with his job, he does need to show a level of class when taking around partners or clients etc. And that i can understand.

With me its the reverse, I need to make sure my clients DONT think i make too much or they will give me less.

the partner i work for could give a fuck if i drove an '89 tercel :o

call me shallow, whatever. i do care somewhat what my friends think. :shrug: i will lease my next car and not pay more than about 600/mo, which isn't exactly a lot of money to be spending :shrug:

fwiw, i'm no baller :lol: i do ok :shrug:

Harmon Rabb

02-26-2008, 02:35 AM

Originally posted by Quadcammer
people making between 100k and 200k in their 40s are not ballers. People under 30 with the aforementioned income are more "baller"

i wouldn't feel close to baller even with double my income :lol:

to me, baller means being able to buy whatever the fuck you want without even having to think about it.

kasim

02-26-2008, 03:08 AM

Originally posted by Berman

to me, baller means being able to buy whatever the fuck you want without even having to think about it.

:werd: ... the thing is not many people really are ballers.

Cause even if you made lets say $250/year ... you would have houses, investments, etc that your money is wrapped into

Boz

02-26-2008, 04:46 AM

Originally posted by aliwantsnss
I don't understand why everyone is obsessing over these navigation systems :huh: How often are you driving in the car where you are in a situation that you actually NEED one? Its just a cool gadget for people.

...not that there's anything wrong with cool gadgets ;) In truth I use mine quite a bit. Then again, I travel a lot for work (both in and out of state) and I also live in the largest inland metroplex in the US.