I was right as usual.

[nikivee]

http://media.gm.com/division/2005_prodinfo/pontiac/gto/index.html

[Jeffro]

Yup I think a lot of us were right. ;)

[Rick76]

I wonder what the price will do?

Also wondering how much of this stuff Monaro gets.

[nikivee]

Originally posted by Morpheus
Yup I think a lot of us were right. ;)


Yupper! I was telling everyone back Jan this would be the case. They all thought I was full of it. :D It pays to have someone you know at the GM Tech Center and Holden. :D

[nikivee]

Originally posted by Rick76
I wonder what the price will do?

Also wondering how much of this stuff Monaro gets.

I'm told MSRP will be the same as the 04 GTO's. Maybe a little higher.

The monaro also will get the LS2 six to 12 months later.

[JCS30TH]

:worship: 395ft lb torque. Man that LS-2 is sweet.

On a sour note, the A-4 is going to be an absolute :turd: factory. That thing will probably have 2 deg of timing at shift points:mad:

It will be interesting to see the first guy who dumps the torque management and upgrades the A-4. That mofo will be a beast.:eek:

[Big Als Z28]

all Holdens will get the Gen IV small block, so I dont think that the price will go up. Maybe for the GTO only stuff like the "had to have" scooped hood.

[Big Als Z28]

and look at this... AutoX package!!!

Additional changes to the ’05 GTO include two new colors (blue and grey), as well as driver foot rest. A line of regular production accessories (RPAs) based on the 2004 GTO Performance Plus SEMA concept vehicle is scheduled for start-of-production availability. The accessories include a tall rear spoiler, front and rear fascia extensions, rocker molding extensions and grille inserts. As part of GM’s RPA program, the accessories can be ordered and installed on the vehicle prior to delivery.

YEAAAAAAAH!

[UBDSLO1]

very cool.:cool:

[schutzhund]

This information confirms that I will wait till the 05 models hit. More show than the 04 and more go as well. I've seen somewhere that Purple and Barbados would be dropped - that's too bad. I was counting on an 05 Purple Goat. However, I can get by just fine with Black or Red.

[schutzhund]

Nikivee,
Do you know if Pontiac gave any consideration or will possibly add an on -hood Instrumenht pod at any point? They've got it right with the hood scoops, now we just need to close the loop altogether with this one final missing piece.

[Jeffro]

Dont count on a factory hood tach since it has one in the car.

[nikivee]

Originally posted by schutzhund
Nikivee,
Do you know if Pontiac gave any consideration or will possibly add an on -hood Instrumenht pod at any point? They've got it right with the hood scoops, now we just need to close the loop altogether with this one final missing piece.

No instrument pod on the hood, but I'm trying to confirm that the 05 GTO may get the gauge package that the HSV Holdens have. They sit in the center of the dash. Something the GTO sorely needs is oil pressure gauge. The idiot light doesn't cut it in high performance automobile.

[BananaNutz]

links dead... what do the hood scoops look like???

[Big Als Z28]

Originally posted by BananaNutz
links dead... what do the hood scoops look like???

GM pulled the link I guess. There were no pics of the hood, but somewhere in this board there are pictures of it from an Aussie mag.

[Decromin]

I'll be keen to see how soon it picks up the 5 speed auto that's coming with the new V6's this year.

[JCS30TH]

Originally posted by nikivee
No instrument pod on the hood, but I'm trying to confirm that the 05 GTO may get the gauge package that the HSV Holdens have. They sit in the center of the dash. Something the GTO sorely needs is oil pressure gauge. The idiot light doesn't cut it in high performance automobile.

you mean like the idiot light in the F-bods for water temp:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Big Als Z28]

Originally posted by Decromin
I'll be keen to see how soon it picks up the 5 speed auto that's coming with the new V6's this year.

its probably teh same 5spd in the Sigma cars, and if thats the case, it wont be able to hold up to the power.
we are all gunna have to wait for Zeta and the 6L80E.

[Big Als Z28]

Originally posted by JCS30TH
you mean like the idiot light in the F-bods for water temp:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

ha ha! 4th gens dont have a water temp gauge?

[ATF]

Could someone who maybe copied and saved the article post it or pm me it? The link no longer works. Thank you.

-ATF

[nikivee]

What’s new for 2005
LS2 6.0L engine replaces LS1
400 horsepower (295 kw)
395 lb.-ft. of torque (546 Nm)
Available hood with twin air scoops
Revised rear fascia incorporating outlets for new split dual exhaust system
Polished exhaust outlet tips
Larger brake rotors and calipers
Red-painted calipers with GTO logo on front caliper
Driver foot rest
Two new colors: blue and grey
Model Lineup
Engine Transmissions
6.0L V-8
6-spd man

(Tremec T56)
4-spd auto

(Hydra-Matic 4L60-E)

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2005 PONTIAC GTO: THE NEW GOAT GETS MORE MUSCLE
GTO – the original muscle car – was re-introduced last year and returns with more power and style for 2005. A new LS2 6.0L V-8 engine replaces the LS1 5.7L engine, bringing with it an increase in horsepower and torque.

The ’05 GTO packs 400 horsepower (295 kw) – up from 350 horses (261 kw) – and 395 lb.-ft. of torque (546 Nm), up from 365 lb.-ft. (495 Nm). Transmission choices are the same as the ’04 model’s: The Hydra-Matic 4L60-E four-speed automatic is standard and the Tremec six-speed manual is optional. GTO’s more powerful engine should lower the 0-60 time to less than 5 seconds.

Enthusiasts will immediately spot the brawnier ’05 GTO, thanks to new badging and a revised rear fascia that incorporates a new dual-exhaust system – it splits the GTO’s two outlets, routing them to opposite sides of the rear fascia. The exhaust tips are polished for a more refined appearance.

Also available is a new hood design incorporating a pair of stylish air scoops. The scoops draw fresh air in to the GTO’s engine compartment.

The badges identifying the ’05 GTO’s bigger V-8 include a “6.0” badge on the trunk lid and revised “GTO” fender badges, which now incorporate “6.0 Litre” designations. The original 1964 GTO also wore “6.0 Litre” fender badges, but at a time when almost every other American manufacturer referenced engine size in cubic inches.

Along with the GTO’s power increase comes improved braking performance from larger brake rotors, calipers and pads. The calipers are painted red and the front calipers feature the GTO logo.

Additional changes to the ’05 GTO include two new colors (blue and grey), as well as driver foot rest. A line of regular production accessories (RPAs) based on the 2004 GTO Performance Plus SEMA concept vehicle is scheduled for start-of-production availability. The accessories include a tall rear spoiler, front and rear fascia extensions, rocker molding extensions and grille inserts. As part of GM’s RPA program, the accessories can be ordered and installed on the vehicle prior to delivery.

LS2 details

Compared to the Gen III-based LS1, the 2005 GTO’s LS2 V-8 incorporates several significant changes to help improve performance. The block is an all-new casting with cylinder bores measuring 4.00 inches (101.6 mm) in diameter. The cylinder heads and camshaft are revised, too, to deliver the airflow necessary to complement the engine’s larger displacement. Other changes include:

New aluminum block casting with revised oil galleries and provisions for external knock sensors – external sensors improve serviceability
Camshaft lift increased to take advantage of increased cylinder head flow
Camshaft sensor relocated from the rear of the block to the front of the block provides room for new oil galleries
Flat-top piston design with lower ring tension reduces friction
Piston floating wrist pins help quiet the engine
More efficient ignition coils require less energy to provide a comparable spark
Compression raised to 10.9:1
Larger, 90-mm single-blade throttle body
Reduced-mass water pump design with improved sealing capability
Engine “redline” raised to 6500 rpm
Revised and more powerful engine controller incorporates all electronic throttle control functions

[JCS30TH]

Originally posted by Big Als Z28
ha ha! 4th gens dont have a water temp gauge? :wtf: just a fancy idiot light cept for 98's

[Big Als Z28]

Originally posted by JCS30TH
:wtf: just a fancy idiot light cept for 98's

Third Gen = 1
4th gen =0

muahahahah! Only when your driving and you get the traffic headed to the beach... then its
Third Gen = 0
Overheating TPI engine =1 :cry: :mad: :help:
Good thing I put in a 170 stat along with low temp fan switch! :cool:

[Jeffro]

The new Gray is called Odyssey(12U) and the blue is called Vespers Blue(28U).

No more Cosmos Purple or Barbados Blue.

[nikivee]

Originally posted by Morpheus
The new Gray is called Odyssey(12U) and the blue is called Vespers Blue(28U).

No more Cosmos Purple or Barbados Blue.

That's interesting because the 05 release still stated Purple as an interior option color.

[Jeffro]

I checked order management today and those 2 colors were gone as well as purple interior.

[Dwarf Killer]

Ummm...

10.9:1 Compression.
4" bore
Bigger cam.

I bet there's more than 400hp there.

[ATF]

Thank you for posting that stuff for me NV!!!

I am willing to bet a lot of people are waiting to buy a new GTO just because the '05 model sounds so tempting. Those who rushed and bought the '04 are probably upset, to say the least. I will be able to afford one (barely) in '06 probably, if they are still making them. My first new car will be a GTO. Gotta wait till college is done. Two more years...two more years.

-ATF

[Big Als Z28]

Originally posted by Dwarf Killer
Ummm...

10.9:1 Compression.
4" bore
Bigger cam.

I bet there's more than 400hp there.

Chaces are that the LS2 in the Vette will push probably 420 at the crank then the advertised 400. The SS concept first used the LS2, and that was rated at 420-430. There is a lot more power in that LS2 then what meets the eye. Thats why I think that 500+hp out of a 7.0 LS7 isnt that hard to fathom.

[Exotic Performance Plus]

Gotta like the new musclecar era. :) :) :)

[nikivee]

Originally posted by ATF
Thank you for posting that stuff for me NV!!!

I am willing to bet a lot of people are waiting to buy a new GTO just because the '05 model sounds so tempting. Those who rushed and bought the '04 are probably upset, to say the least. I will be able to afford one (barely) in '06 probably, if they are still making them. My first new car will be a GTO. Gotta wait till college is done. Two more years...two more years.

-ATF

I bought an 04 GTO. I'm not upset about it. It's a great car.

[Rick76]

From the factory insider..... the next monaro will get volt and oil pressure gauges. So there is another thing on the GTO wanted list that can be ticked off for 05'.

[nikivee]

Originally posted by Rick76
From the factory insider..... the next monaro will get volt and oil pressure gauges. So there is another thing on the GTO wanted list that can be ticked off for 05'.


That's good, because that is what I was told also.

[Big Als Z28]

hey NikiVee, do you plan on trading in your 04 for an 05?

[nikivee]

Originally posted by Big Als Z28
hey NikiVee, do you plan on trading in your 04 for an 05?

Nope.

[YankeeZ]

If they can offer an 05 Goat in the new Daytona Sunburst Orange that the C6s are gonna have... I could see a possible trade for the SS. :cool:

[Chief Pontiac]

Sounds like they are finally getting the GTO the performance the name and Pontiac deserve.:cool: :)