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Cam
02-24-2004, 03:26 AM
OK, I had a Spec Stage 3 (x-pad) clutch installed back in December in my Z06, along with a McLeod adj master. The clutch has a little over 600 miles on it.

Ever since it went in, my car squeaks like an old bed spring everytime I shift gears, go over a bump, or do anything that jars the car in the least. It's driving me NUTS. It's really hard to tell where it's coming from. It sounds like it's inside the car somewhere (internal). We know it's not suspension or exhaust related...

I took it back to the guy who installed it for me, and he's had the car over a week, and he says he can't figure what the hell it causing it. He's done everything but drop the tranny and open the clutch housing. He swears there's nothing in there that could be loose and sqeaking like that.

By any chance, has anyone else ever experienced anything like this? Ideas? Suggestions?

SSean
02-24-2004, 03:50 AM
HHmm... maybe the throwout bearing?

Cam
02-24-2004, 03:52 AM
Originally posted by Arctic98z
HHmm... maybe the throwout bearing? Maybe, although the mechanic insists it couldn't be.

I'm not having any engagement issues with the clutch, fwiw.

SSean
02-24-2004, 03:56 AM
throwout bearings are known to squeak when the clutch pedal is pressed in, applying pressure on it, and since it started the around the same time as the clutch install, that would be the 1st place I looked, assuming your sure its comming from that area and not somewhere else

Cam
02-24-2004, 03:58 AM
Originally posted by Arctic98z
throwout bearings are known to squeak when the clutch pedal is pressed in, applying pressure on it, and since it started the around the same time as the clutch install, that would be the 1st place I looked, assuming your sure its comming from that area and not somewhere else Quite honestly, I can't tell where it's coming from. It sounds like it's inside the car somewhere, but its hard to pinpoint exactly where. It does squeak regardless of whether the clutch pedal is depressed. Something's gotta be loose somewhere. We just haven't been able to figure out what, and I've been trying to figure it out since early January.

jmd
02-24-2004, 04:02 AM
Man, that could be tough to track down.

I'm honestly not familiar with the C5 but the shift rail going from shifter to trans is going to be probably inline with the primary shift rail (goes from shifter forward in an f-body box) but I don't know where that assy. is joined together.

I'd especially look at the transaxle to frame attachment points, i.e. the equivalent of the trans mount, and anything touching the driveline tunnel.

You stumped me. :zombie:

Cam
02-24-2004, 04:06 AM
Originally posted by jmd
Man, that could be tough to track down.

I'm honestly not familiar with the C5 but the shift rail going from shifter to trans is going to be probably inline with the primary shift rail (goes from shifter forward in an f-body box) but I don't know where that assy. is joined together.

I'd especially look at the transaxle to frame attachment points, i.e. the equivalent of the trans mount, and anything touching the driveline tunnel.

You stumped me. :zombie: I'd bet you're thinking along the right lines as far as a good possible cause.

From the shifter, there is a series of linkages that connect to the transmission in the rear of the car. They run along the top of the driveline tunnel, which is partioned from the prop shaft itself with a metal shield (which has a ridiculous number of bolts holding it in). If something's loose in there, it could certainly do it... I believe that was one things the mechanic was going to look at.

SSean
02-24-2004, 04:07 AM
Thats what I was thinking, if you know it only happens when the clutch pedal is pressed down, then I would take a look at everything that would be affected by pressing the clutch pedal. I'm not too familiar with the set-up on the C5's either, but its possible there could be some type of linkage that is squeaking

Cam
02-24-2004, 11:06 PM
Thanks again for the replies, guys.

I talked to my mechanic today, and they're putting the car back on the lift to tear everything apart in order to get to the bottom of this. I hope they get it figured out!

Blown 98 Z
02-24-2004, 11:57 PM
This is normal for the Spec Stage 3
Mine started doing it just after the install, my buddys did it in his LT1, and another friend of mines C5 had the same squeek.

It is an agressive clutch, on or off NO in between. It will take some time to get used to, and eventually go away.

Don

Blown 98 Z
02-25-2004, 12:04 AM
Never mind, yours does it all the time, mine was squeeking only from a dead stop.

It is possibly a coincidence, and not the clutch at all.

Cam
02-25-2004, 12:09 AM
Originally posted by Blown 98 Z
Never mind, yours does it all the time, mine was squeeking only from a dead stop.

It is possibly a coincidence, and not the clutch at all. I'd bet it's not the clutch, but something that was improperly retorqued or positioned when they put everything back together.

When you do a clutch on a C5, you have to drop the entire rear transaxle, torque tube, passenger side header, and clutch/flywheel bell housing... for starters. It's not a 2-3 hour swap like it is on the F-body.

thechef
02-25-2004, 01:50 AM
i am curious to see what this turns out to be

Cam
02-25-2004, 02:22 AM
Originally posted by thechef
i am curious to see what this turns out to be Me too!

I haven't been able to enjoy my car since before the new clutch went in because of that annoying squeak. It's just embarassing to be driving around in a $50K sports car that squeaks like a POS everytime you go over the slighest bump or shift gears.

SSean
02-25-2004, 03:18 AM
Originally posted by Blown 98 Z
This is normal for the Spec Stage 3
Mine started doing it just after the install, my buddys did it in his LT1, and another friend of mines C5 had the same squeek.

It is an agressive clutch, on or off NO in between. It will take some time to get used to, and eventually go away.

Don

No, I would say thats not normal. I'e had my spec stage 3 for months now, and its seen some abuse too, not a single noise, no squeak, no chatter here. And yes, it is almost on and off :yup:

SSean
02-25-2004, 03:19 AM
Originally posted by ZO6Cam
Me too!

I haven't been able to enjoy my car since before the new clutch went in because of that annoying squeak. It's just embarassing to be driving around in a $50K sports car that squeaks like a POS everytime you go over the slighest bump or shift gears.

I know how that feels, and little abnormal squeak or rattle is pretty embarasing. Let us know if you find out whats wrong...

Mr. SSinister
03-02-2004, 05:36 PM
was your mechanic able to find anything?

Cam
03-05-2004, 02:09 AM
Funny you should mention it-

He called me today and basically told me he was giving up. He said that I should take it to the dealership, and if they find something related to the clutch that was causing it, he would reimburse me.

He mentioned that he knows the service manager and transmission specialist at our local dealer, and he asked if I would like him to talk to them to see if they would look at my car without an appointment. I said "yes please."

Well, he spoke with the transmission specialist, and when he described the problem to him, the tech had an idea of what it might be- and he was right!

On the top of the bellhousing on the passenger side, there is a metal bracket of some sort. During the clutch change they removed the passenger side header, and they must have bent that bracket just enough that it was rubbing against the floor pan, causing the squeak every time something caused the trans to bounce up and down.

My mechanic just bent the bracket back into place, and no more squeak!

So, after only 2 weeks in the shop for a sweak, I have my car back!

jmd
03-06-2004, 02:46 AM
Originally posted by ZO6Cam
So, after only 2 weeks in the shop for a sweak, I have my car back!

Congrats. :thumbup: Enjoy it now that it doesn't bitch about every bump. :D