GM to announce April Sales Tuesday at 2pm. gto?

[JCS30TH]

Any expectations?


Now that the weather is getting better, reports of stock at many dealers and selling prices at or below MSRP, I would expect over 1,000 unit sales for April bringing the total just under 3k..


http://media.gm.com/

[nikivee]

651 sold in April.

[Big Als Z28]

I just found out there there is just over 3k GTO's in the USA. Thats it, 3k sold or on dealer lots. So, when you think about it.... The GTO is actualy selling really well. Something like only 500 GTO's not sold in the states. I think there is that many left over fbodies still for sale. :D

[cm_ls1]

i seems like jsc30th has a genuine concerns about gto sales... but i think its more of a "I told you so" kinda post.

considering his posted this subject on here , newagegto , ls1.com , and im sure a few other places. :rolleyes:

if only 3000 are in the country so far , 2500+ sold aint too bad.

[mrgto]

I have a feeling there are a lot more than that in the country at the present moment in time.

[cm_ls1]

so will they discontinue it if it fails , and bring back the 5th gen f-body ?

does that also cancell all plans for the zeta flatform ?

will they also cancel "the last ride" movie? :D

or are we all judging too soon ?

[Big Als Z28]

No, there really isnt. There is just around 3k GTO's in the country, and that comes from a Pontiac Sales Manager as he did look up how many were in country.
2500 sold out of 3k in the states... sounds like its doing good. I was also upset about the sales numbers, but when you put it into perspective....

[94BAMF]

Originally posted by Big Als Z28
No, there really isnt. There is just around 3k GTO's in the country, and that comes from a Pontiac Sales Manager as he did look up how many were in country.
2500 sold out of 3k in the states... sounds like its doing good. I was also upset about the sales numbers, but when you put it into perspective....

Not trying to dog the GTO, but are you fucking kidding me. There is only 3000 in this country and they couldn't sell every god damn one of them? 3000 cars is NOTHING.

You can try to spin this anyway you want, but it sounds like bad news to me. Sorry.:D

[Big Als Z28]

well, its not like they arent selling. Its only as fast as GM can get them here. Half the dealers who had one, are waiting a long time to get another one, while other places have 2 or 3 on the lot, with plenty of mark up. Not everyone is willing to pay mark-up prices.
3000 cars is nothing, but with all the problems they have had launching the car, it doesnt surprise me. I belive that Pontiac is expecting to get less then 16k units to the US before the 05 model rolls out.
Sad, I know. Im pissed becaue its just more ammo for anti-GTO guys to throw back at GTO fans. I think GM will pull it off as they get the whole shipping thing down.

[94BAMF]

Originally posted by Big Als Z28
well, its not like they arent selling. Its only as fast as GM can get them here. Half the dealers who had one, are waiting a long time to get another one, while other places have 2 or 3 on the lot, with plenty of mark up. Not everyone is willing to pay mark-up prices.
3000 cars is nothing, but with all the problems they have had launching the car, it doesnt surprise me. I belive that Pontiac is expecting to get less then 16k units to the US before the 05 model rolls out.
Sad, I know. Im pissed becaue its just more ammo for anti-GTO guys to throw back at GTO fans. I think GM will pull it off as they get the whole shipping thing down.


I don't think the car is going over as well as some of us would like, but I agree with you the shipping really needs to be worked out. I am sure the markup doesn't help, but if the demand by the public was great enough, the markup wouldn't even matter because people would pay it. There is surely 3000 stupid ass people in this country that would pay for a drastic markup if they really wanted the car.:D

[UBDSLO1]

yes, I agree with you about the mark-up and stupid people paying, but for that kind of money, I wouldn't even think about the GTO. sticker 33K, and add 5 to 10 k "market adjustment." so, that's like btween 38 and 43K for a GTO, for that kind of money, I would be buying something German made, that's for sure. I think that this is one reason why sales are slow, plus a lot of dealers are not giving GMS or GMsupplier discount. Yes, they are priced the same as the TA and SS f-bods, but some people still think that the GTO was/is a replacment for the f-bod. I would love to see sales go up, as I think that the GTO might /is the future for GM V8 RWD perofrmance cars. If sales are not hot, or are really slow, for the GTO, then GM might not make anymore "performance value driven" RWD V8 cars anymore.

[JCS30TH]

Originally posted by cm_ls1
i seems like jsc30th has a genuine concerns about gto sales... but i think its more of a "I told you so" kinda post.

considering his posted this subject on here , newagegto , ls1.com , and im sure a few other places. :rolleyes:

if only 3000 are in the country so far , 2500+ sold aint too bad.

:umm: first off, I never said so in the first place, so I couldn't possibly follow up with a "I told you so"

Second, I have no vested interest either way. I am SUPRISED that the sales fell in April. I was expecting to see over 1k for the month.

I seriously doubt there are 3k in the country, but if that is correct, it is indeed "bad" becuase GM totally dropped the ball once again.

Since you are in aussie land, why don't you try and find out what the production is per day. I would assume it is static, ie 25 units built per day. That should give a reasonable idea of how many have been built. Lord only knows where they are.......

[Big Als Z28]

ill say it again, the 3k unit number comes from a Pontiac dealerships Service Manager who checked up on it personaly.

[JCS30TH]

Originally posted by Big Als Z28
ill say it again, the 3k unit number comes from a Pontiac dealerships Service Manager who checked up on it personaly.


I find that hard to believe, maybe it could be attested to by another source?

[BlueStreak]

JCS30TH - Many of your posts have indicated you're not a GTO fan... so why the sudden interest, other than to criticize?

As for current sales levels... I wouldn't read too much into that, since many dealers are still clinging to their markup pricing. It's a standard ploy, hold the price of a new item high until those customers who are really on fire for one buy theirs, then adjust down to the mass market price to sell the bulk of the supply, then finally offer bargain pricing if needed to clean out old stock as the new improved models start getting buzz. Plus, we're still in Spring in north America and this is the type of car people associate with summer. Sales will increase as the season goes on (much to the chagrin of certain antagonists ;) )

[JCS30TH]

Originally posted by BlueStreak
JCS30TH - Many of your posts have indicated you're not a GTO fan... so why the sudden interest, other than to criticize?

As for current sales levels... I wouldn't read too much into that, since many dealers are still clinging to their markup pricing. It's a standard ploy, hold the price of a new item high until those customers who are really on fire for one buy theirs, then adjust down to the mass market price to sell the bulk of the supply, then finally offer bargain pricing if needed to clean out old stock as the new improved models start getting buzz. Plus, we're still in Spring in north America and this is the type of car people associate with summer. Sales will increase as the season goes on (much to the chagrin of certain antagonists ;) )

The answer to you first question is probably around 5 post on all boards combined.

I ask what peoples expectations were and stated mine? How is that being critical? I actually expected more sales that were achieved in April.

I don't buy your standard ploy at this point. Dealers are floorplanning these cars, each day it does not sell, they loose money.

I watch the sales numbers as I am curioius on how the car will do in the marketplace.

In additon, the launch, promotion, delivery ect. of the car will relfect on how GM is running things now. So far it looks like same ol same ol.

[BlueStreak]

How is that being critical?

I don't know... maybe I got distracted by the GTO commentary in your sigblock... :rolleyes:

BTW - what is 'floorplanning'?

[JCS30TH]

Originally posted by BlueStreak
I don't know... maybe I got distracted by the GTO commentary in your sigblock... :rolleyes:

BTW - what is 'floorplanning'?



:wtf: did I spell it wrong. I am reffering to the dealers financing cost for his inventory...

[BlueStreak]

Thanks for the info. I was not aware of the term. As to your sigblock (GTO - RIP) guess I was just being a little obnoxious. Sorry.

[JCS30TH]

Originally posted by BlueStreak
Thanks for the info. I was not aware of the term. As to your sigblock (GTO - RIP) guess I was just being a little obnoxious. Sorry. :drive: