F-bodies with STS turbo kit...how many? [Archive]

walking-dead

07-22-2004, 03:39 PM

My buddy is an authorized installer and carrier of STS now and he is stoked about them. He can install one at his shop on a lift in about 4-6 hours. His first install was on a silverado truckand it dyno'ed 112 RWHP more than stock with about 6.1lbs. of boost on a stock motor, exhaust, tuning, everything. He said the kit is just AWESOME in his opinion and hes currently building a demo vehicle to take to shows so he can show people exactly how it works in person. Him and his dad been in the car repair business for about 20 years and I've never seen him this excited about a product. I'm saving up for one now.

5.0THIS

07-23-2004, 01:47 AM

I want one that runs 12 psi plus without methanol injection!! How long will I have to wait? :D

What were those IATs again without the meth injection????? :D

JZ 97 SS 1500

07-23-2004, 05:52 PM

Originally posted by 5.0THISS
I want one that runs 12 psi plus without methanol injection!! How long will I have to wait? :D

What were those EGTs again without the meth injection????? :D

You'll be waiting a long time if your expecting the STS kit to do it...hehe.

Jose

koncrete

07-28-2004, 02:50 PM

Originally posted by JZ 97 SS 1500
You'll be waiting a long time if your expecting the STS kit to do it...hehe.

Jose

well that was a long time..they have 2-3 alredy doing that

hehe

Hogie Sammich

07-28-2004, 05:59 PM

Synergy Motorsports has installed quite a few, I think they have 2 or 3 lined up this week... If you are in northern california I think they are the only place around doing it right now. synergymotorsports.net or something like that.

JZ 97 SS 1500

07-28-2004, 06:02 PM

I haven't seen one run 12 psi without meth injection and I'm sure if it did, they would be running straight race fuel...hehe. I'm sure the IAT's were probably 150+ deg and pump gas would be asking for BIG trouble. This kit is the powerdyne of the turbo world....hehe.

Jose

5.0THIS

07-28-2004, 08:47 PM

Originally posted by JZ 97 SS 1500
This kit is the powerdyne of the turbo world....hehe.

:thumbup: :p :cool:

walking-dead

07-29-2004, 10:16 PM

Well, if you guys wanna bash STS have at it but for under $4000.00 and gains of 100+rwhp on a STOCK motor, exaust, etc., that doesn't void your factory warranty, I'd say it's a good deal. Yea, you can get more from other kits but your gonna pay more for the kit, have to get new injectors, fuel pump, rods, pistons, PCM tuning, did I leave anything out:D Probably. I'd rather just bolt the damn thing on and call it a day. For now anyway.

walking-dead

07-29-2004, 10:21 PM

By the way, if anyone in the South East is interested in an STS system for their car PM me. My friend is an authorized dealer/installer for Squires Turbo Systems at KARS in Marietta GA.

trtturbo

08-07-2004, 03:02 AM

If there is anyone in the Dallas area that would like to see the STS kit in person and take a ride, just p.m. me or email.

ACPromotions

08-09-2004, 08:28 PM

trtturbo, I tried to send a PM but you aren't allowing it. Please send me an e-mail so I can fire off some questions.

Regards, R. Allen, Flower Mound
catalina455@verizon.net

ChrisB

08-13-2004, 09:29 AM

Ok ever since these kits hit the scene I have been curious about one thing! What about turbo lag? With the turbo being mounted so far away, I would imagine there is some serious turbo lag. I have asked this several times before but never gotten an answer. So maybe someone who has this kit can explain the lag situation to me.

5.0THIS

08-13-2004, 07:12 PM

these kits, as one would assume, have a high boost threshold, and significant lag.... considering the turbos they're using they should be spooling much sooner. they hit boost like a supra. looking at STS dyno graphs shows all of this. the same turbo, in a standard type turbo setup would spool much sooner

JL STS

08-20-2004, 03:02 AM

I have been working with the systems since the beginning as a fbody prototype tester, and since have given many people rides. No one has had anything to say about lag after being in the car. Daily driven for the past year and no problems with the system.

5.0THIS

08-20-2004, 07:25 AM

Originally posted by JL STS
I have been working with the systems since the beginning as a fbody prototype tester, and since have given many people rides. No one has had anything to say about lag after being in the car. Daily driven for the past year and no problems with the system.

lag is worse than a traditional setup, no matter how much you want to think it isnt.. and the boost threshold is higher too... there's no way around the laws of physics.

FIREBIRD EVOLUTION

08-21-2004, 02:47 AM

I have a GT 70 with my STS turbo set up and my car spools up around 3000 rpm. compared to alot of turbos out there i think that isnt very much lag at all.

Teufel Hunden

08-21-2004, 03:07 AM

Originally posted by FIREBIRD EVOLUTION
I have a GT 70 with my STS turbo set up and my car spools up around 3000 rpm. compared to alot of turbos out there i think that isnt very much lag at all.

That's Boost theshold, not lag. Lag is the difference between a change in throttle position and the production of boost when engine rpms are at a point where boost can be achieved.

5.0THIS

08-21-2004, 09:43 AM

Originally posted by FIREBIRD EVOLUTION
I have a GT 70 with my STS turbo set up and my car spools up around 3000 rpm. compared to alot of turbos out there i think that isnt very much lag at all.

Wow, STS owners crawling out of the woodwork :rolleyes: That same turbo would spool quicker in a traditional setup, and have a lower threshold, and there's no ifs, ands, or buts about it.

Remember folks, there's a reason that companies like Audi, Mitsubishi, and all other companies that specialize in turbo vehicles, put the turbo as close to the manifolds as possible.... they have millions upon millions of dollars to research what works, and what do you know, they decided not to put turbos by the muffler! What were they thinking!!!! :sillyme:

Exotic Performance Plus

08-22-2004, 03:44 PM

From what I have read, you cannot use subframe connectors with the STS kit. Is this true?

koncrete

08-22-2004, 07:19 PM

just the drivers side

5.0THIS

08-22-2004, 09:19 PM

Originally posted by koncrete
just the drivers side

which means you cant use them at all... what good would one SFC do? :confused:

koncrete

08-23-2004, 10:53 PM

well the kit comes with a pipe that goes where the SFC would go..
maybe trturbo can chip in and let us know how string it is

JL STS

08-25-2004, 03:22 AM

The drivers side acts as a subframe connector. The pipe has the strength to hold up and is welded to brackets that bolt to the subframe. Might not be as strong as weld in but helps. Then its your choice to add a passenger and/or do a some fabing to the drivers side to beef it up.

krispycobalt

08-27-2004, 07:01 AM

5.0 you have an apparent distain for the system........

have you even looked in our engine compartments? did the whole lack of space concern slip your mind?

this is the easy way of turboing a car, sure it might take a slight bit longer because of lag, but you make it seem like there is a full second of lag or so

5.0THIS

08-27-2004, 07:30 AM

Originally posted by krispycamaro
5.0 you have an apparent distain for the system........

have you even looked in our engine compartments? did the whole lack of space concern slip your mind?

this is the easy way of turboing a car, sure it might take a slight bit longer because of lag, but you make it seem like there is a full second of lag or so

PTK made it work just fine.. plenty of custom kits that also have no problem finding room in our engine bays...so that must have slipped my mind, yeah.... :rolleyes: You're right, it is the easy way to do it.... and for people just wanting to bolt something on and have a turbo, it's the way to go. for people wanting a quality product that goes along with all turbo knowledge and theory, not to mention something that has potential, it isnt the way to go.

koncrete

08-29-2004, 07:32 PM

damn 5.0 you can't even give a new idea some head nod? the sts kit has several cars and trucks over 500hp now...
thats not bad and it seems to have potential...

not trying to start anything but new ideas are what gets technology advanced. without them we wouldn't even have cars in the first place

trtturbo

08-30-2004, 12:15 AM

Most just take the drivers side off. The charge pipe in that area will act as a sfc. If someone was dead set on keeping them you can always make a piece to go in its place.

KissMySS

09-23-2004, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by trtturbo
Most just take the drivers side off. The charge pipe in that area will act as a sfc. If someone was dead set on keeping them you can always make a piece to go in its place.
Do you have any videos that you could post with cars that have this system? :cool:

trtturbo

09-24-2004, 06:17 AM

sent a pm KissmySS

Blue99Ws7

10-02-2004, 08:24 PM

Well to each his own. If it makes power and cost under 4 k that's the way to go. 5.0thiss your trying to fight a loosing battle to discrourage(sp) people to get the system. Yes it will lag more than a traditional but who races there car below 3k rpm? I don't, not even at the line. Only time I'm below that in the rpm is when I pull up to the light when I'm racing. I believe lag is not a concern to people who are buying this kit. There only concern is making power for less $ than traditional turbos. How long have people been waiting for a turbo kit's price to come down to what this kit cost. A very long time. Now it's the only turbo kit to be in reach for alot of people. I believe that's why it's a big sucess, low cost and great gain. This is my opinion though so to each his own.:cool:

5.0THIS

10-03-2004, 01:28 AM

I love it... by the time an STS kit is outfitted to run anything more than 5 psi boost, the cost is very similar to a base PTK kit, which as we all know has tons more potential. I'd pay ~500$ more any day for a vastly superior setup :cool: