Chevrolet "SS" Is this our true Camaro replacement? Or is it too ugly?

[Barfdogg]

So I went to the yearly Seattle auto show today as I do on a yearly basis, and they had an "SS" on show. I talked to the guy a bit and he mentioned how it may be the camaro replacement, and how its likely to have an LS2 etc. but he also said that it is sorta like a family sedan. Im sure most have you have seen it, but I still havent decided if it is pretty, or not worthy yet.

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/7284/chevssgm012ev.jpg

[D Dub]

That concept is AT LEAST 4 years old..:sillyme:

[windhamjk]

They've been showing that for a while. I do not believe that will ever carry the Camaro name.

[deogey]

4dr = not camaro

[Nathan]

before in the move

[426HEMI]

There had better be a revolt if the Camaro name is put on that hideous piece of metal. Looks like a damn SSR car.

[Element]

Looks like an SSR and a Solstice had a bastard child.

Don't see how they're going to add 2 doors to that concept without stretching the car out a bit, and if they keep it 2 door, just imagine someone trying to get into those back seats.

[D Dub]

http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/chevrolet_ss.asp

I first saw it at the 2002 at the NAIAS...


It was nothing more than a concept..from inception

[windhamjk]

Originally posted by Element
Looks like an SSR and a Solstice had a bastard child.

Don't see how they're going to add 2 doors to that concept without stretching the car out a bit, and if they keep it 2 door, just imagine someone trying to get into those back seats.

Look again more closely bro. That car is already a 4 door.

[HOTCIVIC]

That car is ugly as fuck.

[Barfdogg]

Yeah, the damn thing has been around for years now... Perhaps its just GM's way of "trying" to hold us off while they build a real camaro!?!?!

[D Dub]

Originally posted by Barfdogg
Yeah, the damn thing has been around for years now... Perhaps its just GM's way of "trying" to hold us off while they build a real camaro!?!?! No..they use concepts to try out new ideas...and get public feedback on various areas of design...

[D Dub]

When this was displayed the first time, most of this wasn't being offered..

SS Concept: Contemporary Chevy Muscle

The 2003 Chevrolet SS concept showcases a new generation of Chevy muscle, with dynamic design, race-proven technology and balanced performance.

A modern interpretation of Chevrolet's Super Sport heritage, the Chevy SS is a contemporary four-door family sedan turned sports car. It packs rear-wheel drive with a high-technology version of the legendary small-block V-8, and high-performance suspension and brakes to match.

"It's a vehicle to be shared with your family or with your buddies," said Franz von Holzhausen, the SS's exterior designer. "It builds on Chevrolet's great performance heritage, while updating the SS concept for a whole new generation."

Muscular appearance

The Chevy SS, a product of GM Design's Los Angeles studio, exudes power and performance at first glance with its intense, Victory Red exterior and a reflective Cromax glass finish. The design is fluid with a short front overhang, long dash-to-axle and wide, muscular fenders providing an aggressive stance.

Powerful wheel arches house 21-inch front and 22-inch rear aluminum wheels with BF Goodrich performance tires. The package also includes side gills, sporty round taillamps, through-fascia dual exhaust and a brushed stainless steel panel surrounding the taillamps.

The SS's muscular forms also hint at Chevy's ultimate performance car - the Corvette.

Latest evolution of small-block V-8

Underneath the hood is the latest evolution of Chevy's race-proven small-block V-8. The car's longitudinal all-aluminum 6.0-liter V-8 engine pumps 430 horsepower and 430 lbs.-ft. of torque. The engine is paired with a Hydra-Matic 4L65-E four-speed, rear-wheel-drive, electronically controlled automatic transmission. It also could be equipped with the fuel-saving Displacement on Demand technology, debuting on somein 2004 on some 2005 GM models, which shuts down half of the cylinders during most driving conditions and automatically and seamlessly reactivates them for more demanding conditions, such as brisk acceleration or load hauling.

The SS features sophisticated low-arm SLA suspension and independent rear suspension for high-performance driving. The chassis features driver-adjustable shocks to change the damping ratio. The SS driver can tune the chassis for a softer setting during the week and dial in more performance for track days on the weekend.

Clean, understated interior

"The interior is clean and understated with hints of SS heritage. The cool off-white leather surfaces, which contrast well against the warm red exterior, provide a spacious ambience," said Bryan Nesbitt, GM's executive director of design, body-frame integral. "The interior seat upholstery mixes the white leather with a modern woven, hounds-tooth check vinyl reminiscent of the SS cars of the past. Slate leather covers the upper doors and instrument panel while brushed stainless steel accents add refinement," said Nesbitt.

"The SS seats five, but maintains a driver-oriented, cockpit feel," said Blake Allen, the SS's interior designer. The steering wheel is leather-wrapped, and the performance seats are buckets with body adjustments for sport driving. The gear shifter is console-mounted in the SS tradition, with steering-wheel-mounted paddle shifting in the sport mode. There is a built-in child booster seat in the center rear, and the entire rear seats fold flat for extra cargo space.

"With their power and speed, these cars gave Americans a sense of freedom and rebellion against the ordinary, at a price tag that many could afford. The Chevy SS truly is mobile entertainment for performance enthusiasts of all generations," Nesbitt said.

[Fbodfather]

The SS concept really has nothing to do with a future RWD V8 coupe. It was simply a styling exercise to get public feedback. Yup, it's controversial......but for those who don't like it? Well, we just had it in a clinic of 2,500 people.....and guess whot???

It went off the map.....in fact, it scored higher than the 300C (both unbadged)

We aren't gonna build it; and while it's a couple of years old, I've placed it on the show tour for certain cities so that car enthusiasts can see it up close and personal.

(by the way......I don't think a car or truck should ever be judged until it's seen in person......pictures, for the most part, never do a car or truck justice)

[D Dub]

Originally posted by Fbodfather
The SS concept really has nothing to do with a future RWD V8 coupe. It was simply a styling exercise to get public feedback. Yup, it's controversial......but for those who don't like it? Well, we just had it in a clinic of 2,500 people.....and guess whot???

It went off the map.....in fact, it scored higher than the 300C (both unbadged)

We aren't gonna build it; and while it's a couple of years old, I've placed it on the show tour for certain cities so that car enthusiasts can see it up close and personal.

(by the way......I don't think a car or truck should ever be judged until it's seen in person......pictures, for the most part, never do a car or truck justice) :kneel:

[DrEvyl]

Originally posted by Barfdogg
So I went to the yearly Seattle auto show today as I do on a yearly basis, and they had an "SS" on show. I talked to the guy a bit and he mentioned how it may be the camaro replacement, and how its likely to have an LS2 etc. but he also said that it is sorta like a family sedan. Im sure most have you have seen it, but I still havent decided if it is pretty, or not worthy yet.

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/7284/chevssgm012ev.jpg

Which is funny because when I was there taking pics of it, the chick that was there answering questions about it told people that it was only a concept and that it would most likely never see production.

[Barfdogg]

Originally posted by DrEvyl
Which is funny because when I was there taking pics of it, the chick that was there answering questions about it told people that it was only a concept and that it would most likely never see production.

Well there was some chick talking about random cars with a mic standing next to it, but i talked to another guy standing nearby, maybe he worked for ford... :D

[DrEvyl]

Originally posted by Barfdogg
Well there was some chick talking about random cars with a mic standing next to it, but i talked to another guy standing nearby, maybe he worked for ford... :D

I was giving the Saleen guys a hard time because they didn't have a S7 there.

:lol:

Here's my pics of the SS concept..

http://pics.evyl.org/2005_Seattle_Auto_Show/Chevy_SS_a.jpg

http://pics.evyl.org/2005_Seattle_Auto_Show/Chevy_SS_b.jpg

http://pics.evyl.org/2005_Seattle_Auto_Show/Chevy_SS_c.jpg

http://pics.evyl.org/2005_Seattle_Auto_Show/Chevy_SS_d.jpg

http://pics.evyl.org/2005_Seattle_Auto_Show/Chevy_SS_e.jpg

http://pics.evyl.org/2005_Seattle_Auto_Show/Chevy_SS_f.jpg

http://pics.evyl.org/2005_Seattle_Auto_Show/Chevy_SS_g.jpg

http://pics.evyl.org/2005_Seattle_Auto_Show/Chevy_SS_h.jpg

http://pics.evyl.org/2005_Seattle_Auto_Show/Chevy_SS_i.jpg

http://pics.evyl.org/2005_Seattle_Auto_Show/Chevy_SS_j.jpg

[426HEMI]

Originally posted by Fbodfather
The SS concept really has nothing to do with a future RWD V8 coupe. It was simply a styling exercise to get public feedback. Yup, it's controversial......but for those who don't like it? Well, we just had it in a clinic of 2,500 people.....and guess whot???

It went off the map.....in fact, it scored higher than the 300C (both unbadged)

We aren't gonna build it; and while it's a couple of years old, I've placed it on the show tour for certain cities so that car enthusiasts can see it up close and personal.

(by the way......I don't think a car or truck should ever be judged until it's seen in person......pictures, for the most part, never do a car or truck justice)

Can't say I would have forseen the results of the clinic. But I will agree with your comments about seeing a car in person, I've seen many like that.

Speaking of the 300, will we be seeing anything else from GM to compete with the 300 SRT-8? Or will that remain the job of the CTS-V?

[HOTCIVIC]

What I'd like to know from Fbodfather is:

Will we see the new Camaro at the 2006 auto show in January?

:hmm:

[DrEvyl]

Originally posted by HOTCIVIC
What I'd like to know from Fbodfather is:

Will we see the new Camaro at the 2006 auto show in January?

:hmm:

You mean there's still question to that?

[426HEMI]

Originally posted by HOTCIVIC
What I'd like to know from Fbodfather is:

Will we see the new Camaro at the 2006 auto show in January?

:hmm:

:think:

Have you been without the internet for a while or somthing?

[HOTCIVIC]

Originally posted by DrEvyl
You mean there's still question to that?

Originally posted by 426Hemi
:think:

Have you been without the internet for a while or somthing?

I have quite a few people in my life that doubt a new Camaro is coming in January.

[426HEMI]

Originally posted by HOTCIVIC
I have quite a few people in my life that doubt a new Camaro is coming in January.

Do this.

You---:slap:---Them.

[DrEvyl]

Originally posted by HOTCIVIC
I have quite a few people in my life that doubt a new Camaro is coming in January.

Quite a few people in your life are wrong. It is going to be there.

[Element]

Originally posted by windhamjk
Look again more closely bro. That car is already a 4 door.

Looks like the rear door "handle" might just be a flourescent light reflection, and there's no seam between the fenderwell and the body of the car. :shrug: My eyesight is SHIT, so I could be completely wrong. Still looks like ass, though :barf:

[triggerjerk]

watch them put 4 traditional doors on it to compete with dcx

[Trendkiller Z28]

That's not it, trust me.

[McRat]

I imagine if it had Acura, Maserati, Lexus, BMW, or Mercedes badging on it, it would draw rave reviews from many of the import-lover crowd.

For a few years we have been hearing complaints about GM's lack of "exciting" styling, but everytime Chevrolet puts out something that is a radical departure from their existing styling people freak out.

And somehow nobody complains about the styling of the cookie-cutter "suppository design" cars: Accord, 3-Series BMW, Most MB's, etc. From 100' few people can tell the difference between any of these.

[alivegy]

In january there will be a camaro concept at the autoshow. Wether or not that car will turn into the new camaro and be on showroom floors is yet to be seen.

[HOTCIVIC]

Originally posted by 426Hemi
Do this.

You---:slap:---Them.

Originally posted by DrEvyl
Quite a few people in your life are wrong. It is going to be there.

:cool:

[Trendkiller Z28]

Originally posted by alivegy
In january there will be a camaro concept at the autoshow. Wether or not that car will turn into the new camaro and be on showroom floors is yet to be seen. It will, quit being so negative:rolleyes:

[Barfdogg]

I was giving the Saleen guys a hard time because they didn't have a S7 there.

Yeah, I noticed that too, but those mustangs were pretty! and my friend scored a giant saleen banner they had under the black one.

[alivegy]

Originally posted by Trendkiller Z28
It will, quit being so negative:rolleyes:

I'm not meaning to be negative. I'm just saying that this isn't the final car, I think it's more of a feeler to gauge public reaction. This is coming from things I've heard from auto industry people.

[Jeffro]

They must have plans for this thing if it keeps popping up 4 years after it was 1st introduced.

[Kata Skopos]

if the back seat can fit a good sized adault i might be in:cool:


needs AWD

[Kata Skopos]

id definitly take that over a 300C... and not think twice about it:cool:

[DrEvyl]

Originally posted by Barfdogg
Yeah, I noticed that too, but those mustangs were pretty! and my friend scored a giant saleen banner they had under the black one.

Yeah, they're pretty... but not worth the money.

[Fbodfather]

Originally posted by Morpheus
They must have plans for this thing if it keeps popping up 4 years after it was 1st introduced.

Not necessarily. We show concept cars...even ones several years old because people come to auto shows -- in some cases-- to see 'cool stuff'......

Now......it would have been much cheaper NOT to send the SS concept to Seattle (you don't WANT to know how much it costs to send a concept car in a temperature controlled truck from Detroit to Seattle)..........but I think many would agree that concept cars add to an autoshow............

[NBMWSsix]

I personally think that would be a great vehicle to compete with the 300C and the 300 SRT-8. A few engine variants to compete with DC. Competively priced. You got a winner.:cool:

[triggerjerk]

That SS is fugly imho.

It looks like an SSR had illicit relations with a minor Cobalt:o

[Checkmate]

I liked the SS concept from day one, it was a nice depature from the typical GM design. :cool:

I'm more excited about a rwd sedan v8 from Chevy, more so than the Camaro. I hope we aren't waiting to much longer for it. :)

:stick:


The other question I have is the GTO's fate, come on scott gimme a hint buddy. :D

[TA219]

I dig the SS concept, the tail panel is really cool and it looks like the interior is different to. It still retains the long hood and great curves that i have always liked :)

the exhaust and tail lights are also very cool.

I am curious about the gas door on each side of the rear 1/4

[Carsnob]

Originally posted by Checkmate


I'm more excited about a rwd sedan v8 from Chevy, more so than the Camaro. I hope we aren't waiting to much longer for it. :)

:stick:



:ditto: I just hope that chevy doesn't compete with the charger on weight. 4200lbs is assinine!!! Should not weigh more than 3800lbs MAX.

[Whut]

I like the rear of that car, the front I am not so fond of but being a well rounded 4-door with a nice RWD V8 setup wouldnt be a bad thing.

I vote bring it out to compete with the 300C. :)

[MapleRed]

Originally posted by Whut
I like the rear of that car, the front I am not so fond of but being a well rounded 4-door with a nice RWD V8 setup wouldnt be a bad thing.

I vote bring it out to compete with the 300C. :)

:hmm:

Would make a nice Impala. :yup:

[code41ta]

Somehow I don't think this will be the Camaro replacement. An Impala replacement would be more likely.

[Whut]

Its already been said in this thread that it wont be a replacement for anything. So unless we get like 500,000 people waiting in line with check books in hand I dont think it will ever make production.

[DrEvyl]

Originally posted by Fbodfather
Not necessarily. We show concept cars...even ones several years old because people come to auto shows -- in some cases-- to see 'cool stuff'......

Now......it would have been much cheaper NOT to send the SS concept to Seattle (you don't WANT to know how much it costs to send a concept car in a temperature controlled truck from Detroit to Seattle)..........but I think many would agree that concept cars add to an autoshow............

I would agree, especially considering that GM ended up being the only manufacturer showing a concept car at the SIAS. Everything else was just cars off the street... Ford didn't even have a GT500 Cobra on display.... in fact the only Mustang they had was a V6 ragtop... At least Saleen picked up the slack for them.

[Gary99Z]

I like it, all except for the chrome/aluminum rear panel.

I also like the fact that it's a 4-door -- family people (and those that need 4-drs for work) should get to have fun too.

[windhamjk]

Originally posted by Element
Looks like the rear door "handle" might just be a flourescent light reflection, and there's no seam between the fenderwell and the body of the car. :shrug: My eyesight is SHIT, so I could be completely wrong. Still looks like ass, though :barf:




Okay Element. Look at Zeke's pictures. :p :D

Originally posted by DrEvyl
..............
Here's my pics of the SS concept..

http://pics.evyl.org/2005_Seattle_Auto_Show/Chevy_SS_a.jpg

http://pics.evyl.org/2005_Seattle_Auto_Show/Chevy_SS_b.jpg

http://pics.evyl.org/2005_Seattle_Auto_Show/Chevy_SS_c.jpg

http://pics.evyl.org/2005_Seattle_Auto_Show/Chevy_SS_d.jpg

http://pics.evyl.org/2005_Seattle_Auto_Show/Chevy_SS_e.jpg

http://pics.evyl.org/2005_Seattle_Auto_Show/Chevy_SS_f.jpg

http://pics.evyl.org/2005_Seattle_Auto_Show/Chevy_SS_g.jpg

http://pics.evyl.org/2005_Seattle_Auto_Show/Chevy_SS_h.jpg

http://pics.evyl.org/2005_Seattle_Auto_Show/Chevy_SS_i.jpg

http://pics.evyl.org/2005_Seattle_Auto_Show/Chevy_SS_j.jpg