New Chevy Impala SS with V8?

[Borla]

Anyone have the details on it? :confused: I'm sitting here watching the race going on in Richmond and just saw the first commercial I've seen for it. It said that the new SS has a small block V8, I believe they said with 330HP? :think:

[Borla]

Ahhh, 303, not 330.

Still sounds intriguing for a four door "family" car.

2006 Chevrolet Impala SS Sedan
Base price $27,800 (est)
Vehicle layout Front engine, FWD, 4-door, 5-pass sedan
Engine 5.3L (325ci)/303 hp/323 lb-ft OHV 16-valve V-8
Transmission 4-speed automatic
Curb weight 3600 lb (est)
Wheelbase 110.5 in
Length x Width x Height 198.3 x 71.6 x 55.9 in
0-60 mph 6.0 sec (est)
1/4 mile 14.3 sec @ 98.1 mph (est)
Sales Projection 20,000 of 200,000 Impalas
On sale in U.S. Autumn 2005

[HiImSean]

it sucks thats its FWD :jerkit:

[MapleRed]

I've seen a few at local dealers. It looks pretty cool. The V8 sounds good and the new interior looks alot better than the 05 Impala.

[triggerjerk]

I want to see someone do a cam swap on one.:D

That should be fun with it being transverse and all.

[WCFields]

The Grand Prix GXP is the same car, they run low 14's @ 99 ish.

[DrEvyl]

Originally posted by HiImSean
it sucks thats its FWD :jerkit:

:werd: times eleventy billion.

They really need to make it FWD.. and I think the look they're giving most of the new Chevys is just weird...

[Harmon Rabb]

Originally posted by DrEvyl
:werd: times eleventy billion.

They really need to make it FWD.. and I think the look they're giving most of the new Chevys is just weird...

you mean rwd? ;)

i think they're cool cars, especially for $27k. i wonder what you can get one for with the employee discount?

as lame as fwd is, the new impala v8 would fucking bitchslap the old impala ss in a race. realize that :) shit, it'll run with LT1's. not bad at all.

[Whut]

Originally posted by DrEvyl
:werd: times eleventy billion.

They really need to make it FWD.. and I think the look they're giving most of the new Chevys is just weird...

You mean RWD?

I cant go to a Chevy dealer right now without getting depressed. The lots are full of plain jane cars and it looks like a lot for a rental car place. :(

[Harmon Rabb]

Originally posted by Whut
You mean RWD?

I cant go to a Chevy dealer right now without getting depressed. The lots are full of plain jane cars and it looks like a lot for a rental car place. :(

how about C6's, CTS-V's, and GTO's? that doesn't depress me. :)

[Whut]

Originally posted by Berman
how about C6's, CTS-V's, and GTO's? that doesn't depress me. :)

The only Chevrolet dealers that have C6's are not in my area. The closest dealer to me has ONE C5 on the lot and thats it.

As for the others, no Caddy dealer around me so no CTS-V to look at. Although I dont like Cadillacs new front design and I HATE their ad campaign. The Pontiac dealer close to me has some GTO's but they are also a Buick dealer. When I went there looking for another EGR as a back up for the GN they looked like this - :think: - and were like "Was that a Regal?" Now the only reason I go to that dealer is to go to the local GNTA meetings that are held there. :nosulk:

[Harmon Rabb]

Originally posted by Whut
The only Chevrolet dealers that have C6's are not in my area. The closest dealer to me has ONE C5 on the lot and thats it.

As for the others, no Caddy dealer around me so no CTS-V to look at. Although I dont like Cadillacs new front design and I HATE their ad campaign. The Pontiac dealer close to me has some GTO's but they are also a Buick dealer. When I went there looking for another EGR as a back up for the GN they looked like this - :think: - and were like "Was that a Regal?" Now the only reason I go to that dealer is to go to the local GNTA meetings that are held there. :nosulk:

your local dealers suck, what else can i say? :D

[Whut]

I cant argue that. This is Minnesota, we have a lot of rich people that drive high-end cars. The thing is, the winters are so long here the most exotic dealership we have is a Lotus dealer. Yeah, we have Acura that stocks NSX's and Porche with 911's but no Carrera or GT2, etc.. Everyone I know that has an exotic has gone to either Nebraska or Chicago to get it. As for the people driving CTS-V's and C6's, well, they just go out of the city to get them because city dealers mark them up so high they cant sell them. Since they dont sell them, they dont stock them.

[Harmon Rabb]

Originally posted by Whut
I cant argue that. This is Minnesota, we have a lot of rich people that drive high-end cars. The thing is, the winters are so long here the most exotic dealership we have is a Lotus dealer. Yeah, we have Acura that stocks NSX's and Porche with 911's but no Carrera or GT2, etc.. Everyone I know that has an exotic has gone to either Nebraska or Chicago to get it. As for the people driving CTS-V's and C6's, well, they just go out of the city to get them because city dealers mark them up so high they cant sell them. Since they dont sell them, they dont stock them.

they mark up V's? geez, most dealers throughout the country discount them. i don't understand WHY they have to do this. other than the Vette, the V is by far the most 'right' GM has got a car in a long time. they're flat out awesome, like a 4-door corvette basically.

maybe they need to offer them with autos? :think:

[jr. gong]

Originally posted by DrEvyl
:werd: times eleventy billion.

They really need to make it FWD.. and I think the look they're giving most of the new Chevys is just weird...

It sucks what the Impala has become..

Now it looks like a goddamn Accord or Camry, I can't believe GM is saddling it with such dull looks.. :rolleyes:

[ULTIMTEORANGESS]

montes are getting this motor too right?

[Harmon Rabb]

Originally posted by DrewSG3
It sucks what the Impala has become..

Now it looks like a goddamn Accord or Camry, I can't believe GM is saddling it with such dull looks.. :rolleyes:

accords and camry's sell great despite their 'dull looks.' maybe gm isn't so stupid with their styling? ;)

[MasonJar]

Originally posted by ULTIMTEORANGESS
montes are getting this motor too right?


Yes.:cool:

[WCFields]

From what I've heard the TM is a real PITA on these cars, stomp it and drive by wire takes over.

[Harmon Rabb]

Originally posted by BlackLightn
From what I've heard the TM is a real PITA on these cars, stomp it and drive by wire takes over.

they aren't slow though. 14.3 @ 99, with 303hp, in a larger 4 door car seems about right. :shrug:

[Quadcammer]

v8 = :thumbup:

design= :hellno:

fwd= :barf:

[MapleRed]

Originally posted by BlackLightn
From what I've heard the TM is a real PITA on these cars, stomp it and drive by wire takes over.

The transmission gearing is also very tall. I read a review of the Grand Prix GXP and second winds out over 100 mph. I wish they would come out with that 6 speed auto already.

[dave1w41]

it sucks thats its FWD

Just like every other car in its class and it sells over 250,000 units per year.


:rolleyes:

I guess the Nissan Maxima needs to be RWD too.. Along with the Camry, Accord, Mazda 6, Ford Five-Hundred (available AWD). You do realize that even with FWD, the Impala alone outsells every RWD sedan sold by Dodge and Chrysler by almost 50% right?

Oh, might I mention that it is also rated at 28mpg on the highway with the V8?

As far as the styling goes... It was much worse before it was restyled and had a rather cheezy interior both of which are now gone. I can only suspect that with mileage as imporant as it is, that this car (the entire Impala line) will easily outsell the 2005 version. BTW, the 211 horsepower base engine is more powerful than the one in the Ford Five-Hundred and every one of them (with the 3.5L LZ5) is equipped to run on E-85 which sells for about $1.80/gallon.

[SledNecK]

:stupid2: The Impala is badass for what it is a cool family sedan with great power and awsome interior. GM would be dumb not have a car in this segment.;)

[Harmon Rabb]

Originally posted by ThirdGen88
:stupid2: The Impala is badass for what it is a cool family sedan with great power and awsome interior. GM would be dumb not have a car in this segment.;)

:werd: they sell a LOT of the things. regardless of whether enthusiasts like it, obviously someone does because they sell a zillion of them. every car can't be an enthusiast's car.

[Whut]

Originally posted by Berman
:werd: they sell a LOT of the things. regardless of whether enthusiasts like it, obviously someone does because they sell a zillion of them. every car can't be an enthusiast's car.

I just wish they would use new names instead of bringing back classic names that represented a completely different car.

Nothing about the new Impala's represent the old.

http://rollinlow54.com/rides/65chevyss/65ss73.jpg

They are getting closer by putting a 327Ci motor in it as that was the normal motor for the older Impala's but the fact that it is available only in 4-door and FWD makes me not even look at it.

Give it another name, something new, and then I would respect it a bit.

[Harmon Rabb]

Originally posted by Whut
I just wish they would use new names instead of bringing back classic names that represented a completely different car.

Nothing about the new Impala's represent the old.

http://rollinlow54.com/rides/65chevyss/65ss73.jpg

They are getting closer by putting a 327Ci motor in it as that was the normal motor for the older Impala's but the fact that it is available only in 4-door and FWD makes me not even look at it.

Give it another name, something new, and then I would respect it a bit.

the mopar guys say the same thing about the new charger. :dunno:

[Whut]

Originally posted by Berman
the mopar guys say the same thing about the new charger. :dunno:

The difference is, they put a Hemi in the Charger and made a base V8 for it and an even more powerful V8 for it. Also, it was never brought back as FWD and is available in only RWD. Yes its a 4-door only vehicle now but it hung on to some of the important roots of the name.

Look at what Chevrolet did to the Impalas in the 80's and look at what Mopar did to the Charger in the 80's. Dodge let the Charger name die for a spell while Chevy revived the Impala. Using the Caprice frame as a base (and the body for that matter) and putting an LT1 while keeping it RWD was a step in the right direction. If you look at a 96 Impala SS you are left with the same arguments the Mopar guys are having about the 05 Charger. Fact is, both cars were available in two or four doors and now its four doors only. The argument about them being RWD is moot at this point since FWD wasnt thought of at that time for mainstream use.

The Charger kept some of its roots which is why I never bitched about it. I absolutely hate the styling of the Charger in the 70's and that POS Dodge called a Charger in the 80's should have got whomever said "Hey, lets call that little shitbox hatchback a Charger" shot. The Charger IMHO is a step in the right direction for Dodge. The Impala is still lacking that with Chevrolet, they were on the right track in the 90's and the train flat out derailed in the new millenium.

[dave1w41]

They are getting closer by putting a 327Ci motor in it as that was the normal motor for the older Impala's but the fact that it is available only in 4-door and FWD makes me not even look at it.

Give it another name, something new, and then I would respect it a bit.


How about tossing the 1960's paradigm in the trash?

[MapleRed]

Originally posted by Whut
The difference is, they put a Hemi in the Charger and made a base V8 for it and an even more powerful V8 for it. Also, it was never brought back as FWD and is available in only RWD. Yes its a 4-door only vehicle now but it hung on to some of the important roots of the name.


WRONG! Remember the fwd Shelby Charger's of the 80's?

So what if the Impala is fwd? Its a mid-size family car today, it was a mid-size family car in the 60's and it sells extremely well. Its not like the car is a horrible flop. Chevy will sell more Impala's than DCX will sell Chargers/300C's/Magnum's combined.

[MapleRed]

FYI, the current LS4 5.3 liter V8 is 325 ci, not 327 ci.

[Carsnob]

Originally posted by dave1w41


and every one of them (with the 3.5L LZ5) is equipped to run on E-85 which sells for about $1.80/gallon.

YAY!!! If I buy one I'll get to spend $100 on a special fuel filter instead of $20 for a regular one for fuel that I would have to drive 400 miles (nearest pump is Nashville, TN) to buy :woot:

HIGH TQ AND FWD SUCKS!!!! And HELL yes a maxima needs to be rwd. I had a 98 5-spd with only 190 hp and I had to hold on to the steering wheel with both hands if I got on it from a dig or it would drive itself right into a ditch. I couldn't imagine the tq steer if it had the current HP levels.

[Carsnob]

Originally posted by MapleRed
WRONG! Remember the fwd Shelby Charger's of the 80's?

So what if the Impala is fwd? Its a mid-size family car today, it was a mid-size family car in the 60's and it sells extremely well. Its not like the car is a horrible flop. Chevy will sell more Impala's than DCX will sell Chargers/300C's/Magnum's combined.

Most of those are fleet sales. Not the general public going out and purchasing them because it's a better car.

Btw, I have an 01 Impala for a company car. I put over 35k miles on it last year so I can speak with a little authority on this point. The drivetrain is great as I have had zero problems in 124k miles and avg. 30mpg. The looks are subjective (not my favorite), the interior is an ergonomic nightmare, seats are comfy for the most part, and maint is very low.

Would I buy one as a personal vehicle? Yes, if it was a couple years old and had already suffered it's 60% depreciation in those 2 years and all I was going to use it for was pilling the miles on and I needed space for people (and it has a huge trunk).

[dave1w41]

YAY!!! If I buy one I'll get to spend $100 on a special fuel filter instead of $20 for a regular one for fuel that I would have to drive 400 miles (nearest pump is Nashville, TN) to buy

None of these cars have a replaceable fuel filter. About 99% of modern cars don't.

Some places in the midwest E85 pumps are quite plentiful.

[MACGI 98 Z28]

Some places in the midwest E85 pumps are quite plentiful.

One of the stations in my Wife's hometown (Lena, IL) has four E-85 pumps. I think a lot of people that don't have E85 cars are using it or mixing it with gas to some extent.

[Whut]

Originally posted by dave1w41
How about tossing the 1960's paradigm in the trash?

Then how about leaving classic names in the trash as well.

[dave1w41]

Then how about leaving classic names in the trash as well.

Why? That would be rediculous. GM should use those names on high quality solid entries (Like the Impala and Malibu) in whatever segments it is appropriate for. One of the biggest advantages that GM has over Toyota and Honda is that GM has a heritage, Toyota and Honda don't. There is nothing about the names Impala and Malibu that says they have to be RWD cars. NOTHING. In every respect the 2006 Impala is better than any 1960's car that purists picture in their heads. Braking, acceleration, handling, safety, comfort, economy, emissons, the list is endless. The base engine in the car has 211 horsepower. The example pictured earlier in this thread if it had the base engine in it (straight 6- 250ci)would have had by today's measurement, about 150 horsepower. Cripe it was 40 years ago; give it a rest.

[Carsnob]

Originally posted by dave1w41
None of these cars have a replaceable fuel filter. About 99% of modern cars don't.

Some places in the midwest E85 pumps are quite plentiful.

I'm calling BS on the life of the car fuel filter. Link?

Then sell those cars in the midwest. They make cars for California only why not mid-west only. I don't want or need them. My 03 4cyl S-10 was equipped to run that crap. I was going to have to pay about $100 +/- for a new fuel filter so I got pissed and looked for the closest place to buy it. It was litterally in Nashville, TN over 400 miles away. Untill there is an infrastructure for it they shouldn't force it on us. Ever heard the word "OPTION" GM?

[dave1w41]

I'm calling BS on the life of the car fuel filter. Link?

Most (99%) have internal filters in the tank in 2006 production vehicles. Due to evaporative emission regulations. Sorry that's just the way things are. The internal filters are much larger, about 5 times as much capacity as an external filter.

There is no special filter system on the Impala for E85 because the filter is inside the tank and never needs to be changed. If the filter does become blocked one would have to suspect the pump would also be bad having clogged a filter that was 5x the size of the external one on the earlier vehicles.

The high cost of that filter on the S10 was because it was integrated with the fuel sensor which determined the mix of ethanol and gasoline. Why were you changing the filter anyway? It isn't a maintenance item on that vehicle.

It is called a "No charge" option.
All Tahoe's and Yukon's built right now are equipped for E85 as well. (Not the XL or Suburban)

Here's a link for some information on GM vehicles.

http://www.gmtechlink.com/images/issues/jan05/TLjan05e.html#story10

[jr. gong]

Originally posted by Whut
Then how about leaving classic names in the trash as well.

It fucking sucks that the Impala has become a boring japanese inspired car.

The FWD sucks, but it's just lame the styling direction its going.

[Whut]

Originally posted by dave1w41
Why? That would be rediculous. GM should use those names on high quality solid entries (Like the Impala and Malibu) in whatever segments it is appropriate for. One of the biggest advantages that GM has over Toyota and Honda is that GM has a heritage, Toyota and Honda don't. There is nothing about the names Impala and Malibu that says they have to be RWD cars. NOTHING. In every respect the 2006 Impala is better than any 1960's car that purists picture in their heads. Braking, acceleration, handling, safety, comfort, economy, emissons, the list is endless. The base engine in the car has 211 horsepower. The example pictured earlier in this thread if it had the base engine in it (straight 6- 250ci)would have had by today's measurement, about 150 horsepower. Cripe it was 40 years ago; give it a rest.

You are right, they are aiming their cars at new buyers. There will always be people like me that are not happy with their choice of name for a specific car. I see them use a classic name and I just see the plain jane car they slapped it on to. Why not use some of the heritage to give the car a better look? I am happy they are making new cars with decent performance and safety equipment and I see how they are aiming them at new buyers. I have never seen an "It's back" style commercial for any of the cars, Malibu, Impala, Monte Carlo, so its easy to see they are pushing them to new buyers.

Of course they are going to upset a few "customers" like me by using classic names on new cars that to a purist doesnt meet the bill. I have seen first hand that an opinion like that doesnt matter, its all about growth and new customer base which makes money. Thats why I complain (very rarely by the way) on a message board. Its just me venting and thats all it is.

[Carsnob]

Originally posted by dave1w41
Most (99%) have internal filters in the tank in 2006 production vehicles. Due to evaporative emission regulations. Sorry that's just the way things are. The internal filters are much larger, about 5 times as much capacity as an external filter.

There is no special filter system on the Impala for E85 because the filter is inside the tank and never needs to be changed. If the filter does become blocked one would have to suspect the pump would also be bad having clogged a filter that was 5x the size of the external one on the earlier vehicles.

The high cost of that filter on the S10 was because it was integrated with the fuel sensor which determined the mix of ethanol and gasoline. Why were you changing the filter anyway? It isn't a maintenance item on that vehicle.

It is called a "No charge" option.
All Tahoe's and Yukon's built right now are equipped for E85 as well. (Not the XL or Suburban)

Here's a link for some information on GM vehicles.

http://www.gmtechlink.com/images/issues/jan05/TLjan05e.html#story10

That's pretty cool. Thanks for the info.

I was changing the filter on my S-10 because it had 60k miles on it and that's about when you change fuel filters. :think:

[MACGI 98 Z28]

I see them use a classic name and I just see the plain jane car they slapped it on to. Why not use some of the heritage to give the car a better look?

I am glad you see both sides of the coin. However, for everyone's benefit, I wanted to point out something that I find interesting.

Back in the 1960's the Impala was a "plain jane" car compared to the mix that was out there. Actually, cars with features like a modern entry-level Impala would hardly have been plain back then. To most Impala buyers in the late 60's the Impala was every bit as boring a piece of transportation as today's Impala, Camry etc. Had you told those people that in 2005 the old Impala would be a "classic", 3/4 of them would have laughed in your face. My dad had one and you can trust me that it was no more special or magical at the time than a modern Impala is today.

[Steve1969LS1]

I thought they said 330hp in the commercial as well.. hmmm

[ULTIMTEORANGESS]

i finally saw one today.


it doesnt look bad for a 4 dr car and it sounded pretty good.

[WCFields]

Originally posted by Steve1969LS1
I thought they said 330hp in the commercial as well.. hmmm nope...303 was said in the commercial.