WS6 owners [Archive]

Lawdogws6

08-19-2005, 02:15 AM

Before my header and high flow cat installation I ran a 13.79 in high heat and humidity with not-so-great launches and shifting. After my header/cat installation I ran a 13.74 at 104 mph in humidity with not-so-great launches and shifting. If the weather is right and I can figure out how to launch my car without spinning or bogging down I can reasonably say that my car will run in the 13.40 range. I doubt that your friend has experience at the track. Its going to take more than minimal modification for him to run with a WS6. Especially a modded one.

DKenn08

08-19-2005, 02:16 AM

Originally posted by MackSalmon
well, what do they run stock then?

Same general time as all LS1's. 13.0 @ 104-108 for the very skilled drivers and up to 14.0 @ 100-102 for the not so skilled drivers. Average time being 13.3-13.6.

Weather, track and driver all play a role in how good of a time any car will run.

SRT-4 at best runs 14.0...it will need more then minimal mods to pull on an ls1. From a dig it's all ls1 if the driver can launch well.

RWD > FFD

DustinWS6

08-19-2005, 02:17 AM

Originally posted by MackSalmon
no, which is why i'm calling :bs:

He is a retard :story:

Nova5

08-19-2005, 02:18 AM

Originally posted by DustinWS6
A srt-4?

SRT4's make my LT1 cry.

McSalmon

08-19-2005, 02:19 AM

He says he's going to get a friend to mail the timeslip from back home... I'll post back up when I see it...

'preciate it, everybody

Phirehawk265

08-19-2005, 02:20 AM

Originally posted by WhiteLS1Ws6
Same general time as all LS1's. 13.0 @ 104-108 for the very skilled drivers and up to 14.0 @ 100-102 for the not so skilled drivers.

14.5 stock here :booty:

DKenn08

08-19-2005, 02:21 AM

Originally posted by Phirehawk265
14.5 stock here :booty:

4000ft~ D.A. doesn't help. :)

viper3885

08-19-2005, 02:22 AM

my WS6 ran a 13.1 at 106 with the only mod being a catback at the time

Raydarlov

08-19-2005, 02:40 AM

Had a 98 WS6 MN6 bone stock. It had about 15k miles on it at the time. My first time at any track. Had to learn the shifting points and had regular street tires. Obvious learning curve, but my best time was my seventh and last pass which was 13.79 at 98 mph.

I'm sure I could of squeezed a better time out of it if I had made a few more passes and gained some more experience, but probably not much more considering I had street tires. My reaction time was like a consistant .4 to .5 which I didn't think was too bad for a newbie.

It was funny though. The ricers avoided me like the plague, but the Mustang owners were tripping over themselves to line up against me.

blue02formula

08-19-2005, 02:48 AM

With 2500 miles completly stock my best was 13.47 @107mph on a track with a slight upgrade.

navywings22

08-19-2005, 02:57 AM

Time... just a little bit....

Thats all I ask for, then I will put the paperwork behind my word.
Thats a promise

P.S. I'm the guy with the neon. No its not an SRT-4, and yes it only has boltons with a little spray.

just to make it clear, I'm not a retard and I dont talk smack until smack is talked to me... I love ls2's ls1's, ls anythings. But in my book it does say something if I can make my neon run with an ls2. You may not think so but I give credit to anything that is fast.... if I get the credit I deserve. As soon as my slips come in from home I'll share them with you guys. And if you have any slips of your own I'de love to see what you have.

Thanks, David

racer88

08-19-2005, 04:25 AM

13.105 @ 106.77 1.98 60' had I gotten my 60' down into the 1.7's as it currently is on drag radials would have been a solid 12.9 easily.

Would coulda shoulda, I now can run a 13.1 missing 4th :D

Why2Kone WS6

08-19-2005, 10:39 PM

Average time being 13.3-13.6. - That was my time's for my first track runs... :D

Phirehawk265

08-19-2005, 10:59 PM

Originally posted by WhiteLS1Ws6
4000ft~ D.A. doesn't help. :)

:sadnana: 5800. :(

DKenn08

08-19-2005, 11:35 PM

Originally posted by Phirehawk265
:sadnana: 5800. :(

Ouch. :)

Soul TKR

08-20-2005, 12:19 AM

Back in the day when my WS.6 was bone stock i ran a 13.4 :shrug:

Originally posted by Vast321
why ask just ws6 owners..a stock trans am = same time slip with equal drivers.

ws6 is just an appearance package.

not entirely true... the point of the hood besides appearance is the "ram air" function of course, i've got to believe that it improves horsepower at least a little over stock! Also it has suspension upgrades and cooled power steering so it's not all "Appearance" :p

blue02formula

08-20-2005, 01:12 AM

Originally posted by Soul TKR
Back in the day when my WS.6 was bone stock i ran a 13.4 :shrug:

not entirely true... the point of the hood besides appearance is the "ram air" function of course, i've got to believe that it improves horsepower at least a little over stock! Also it has suspension upgrades and cooled power steering so it's not all "Appearance" :p

I agree with the suspension due to the springs, sway-bars. The ram-air hood is all show IMO. The night I ran a 13.4 a WS6 was running 13.8 but he may have had a 98-00, or an A4 or just a weight disadvantage or it may have been the blue bird is faster than the black bird rule. :D

smiley

08-20-2005, 02:24 AM

the ram air hood is show - no air gets forced in there at high speed, not enough anyway to do anything. there is actually a thin vacuum over the top of the car.

there was a nice thermodynamics thread that explained it all and had tests.... but it resided on ls1.com which of course is gone now...

oldgregg

08-20-2005, 02:56 AM

Originally posted by MackSalmon
well, what do they run stock then? I suck at driving my car & I ran a 13.63 on street tires witha crappy 2.32 short time, bone stock & just under 2 weeks into ownership of it.

oldgregg

08-20-2005, 02:58 AM

Originally posted by smiley
the ram air hood is show - no air gets forced in there at high speed, not enough anyway to do anything. there is actually a thin vacuum over the top of the car.

there was a nice thermodynamics thread that explained it all and had tests.... but it resided on ls1.com which of course is gone now... But it still isololates, somewhat, the hot engine air from the cooler air so it's not all show.
Now when you do the BGRA mod & debaffle the hood as I've done, then it's fully functional.

Chief Pontiac

08-20-2005, 05:09 AM

Tell the guy driving the Neon to "Just say no" to drugs.:D

With a good driver a 2002 WS6 should run low 13's.:drive:

navywings22

08-20-2005, 06:05 PM

He doesn't have to, I'm right here.

And the normal reaction when a ws6 guy looks over and sees that that neon really did keep up with him is for him to "say yes to drugs".... not for me to "just say no"... they normally take it a little harder than I do.
I guess I would be pissed off too if I couldn't get away from a neon when I'm driving a LS2

ZIP

08-20-2005, 08:26 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Soul TKR
[B]Back in the day when my WS.6 was bone stock i ran a 13.4 :shrug: [QUOTE]

:bs:

lol bone stock huh???, and your so modified now??, what that motivater piece of crap you got and a loudmouth exhaust are considered major modifications , and your car never ran a 13.4, lol actually its never ran the quarter mile, you have only taken it on the 1/8, wes you are a tool that like to lie on the forums, to make yourself feel cool or like a big wheel that works at rksport :jest: , frickin redneck.

o yeah maybe it was those nology wires thats what put you in the 12's lol :think:

i am probadly going to get banned because your sucking one of the Mod's you know whats, does that make you feel tough now wes , your a internet tough man lol, watch out cage fighter

racer88

08-20-2005, 08:48 PM

Originally posted by Chief Pontiac
Tell the guy driving the Neon to "Just say no" to drugs.:D

With a good driver a 2002 WS6 should run low 13's.:drive:

A GOOD driver can take a bone stock Fbody into the high 12's it's been done many times.

A decent driver will see mid-low 13's........I've seen some run low 14's at my track and that makes me shake my head but some people just haven't done the track enough to figure out how to shift.

navywings22

08-20-2005, 09:25 PM

Thanks ZIP for pointing out the fronting. :D I appreciate it

Phirehawk265

08-20-2005, 11:41 PM

Way to bring the trolls around wes. :mad:

blue02formula

08-21-2005, 12:22 AM

Originally posted by navywings22
I guess I would be pissed off too if I couldn't get away from a neon when I'm driving a LS2

Most of us here drive LS1's, most have some sort of mods. If you had a modified SRT-4 you might be able to keep up, with an R/T you better go play keep up with a Ford Focus or a Crapalier. Hell your car probably shuts off at 120mph or less. Your right an LS1 or LS2 owner would probably be pissed if they couldn't get away from a Neon, but that's not going to happen anyway.;)

Phirehawk265

08-21-2005, 01:00 AM

Originally posted by blue02formula
...Your right an LS1 or LS2 owner would probably be pissed if they couldn't get away from a Neon, but that's not going to happen anyway.;)

Also because.. well.. it's still a neon. :shrug:

Element

08-21-2005, 01:32 AM

Originally posted by Phirehawk265
Also because.. well.. it's still a neon. :shrug:

Don't want to piss off the LS1 nitrous guys, but the WS.6 can run those numbers all day without spray...the Neon has to stop and refill a bottle.

No replacement for displacement still rings true.

navywings22

08-21-2005, 04:16 AM

Your right there is no replacement for displacement.

And yes it will still be a neon at the end of the day.

And yes I will have to refill the bottle eventually.

But... I spent a grand total of $5000 on this car. And it will run low 13's and be just as much of an everyday driver as a family sedan. I get 30-35 mpg and only spend about $18 to fill up the tank every time at $2.00+ a gallon.

It has won multiple autocross events, and has put down time trial times better than porsche's and even a corvette at one race. I dont have to worry about a warranty or breaking anything because I could replace my whole car once and still be under the price of a 2000+ trans am.

I have more money in the suspension than the power and I can still trap a 13.3 in the 1/4.

Like I said before, I give respect to anything that is fast.

Believe me, I would love to have a ws6 or any small block v8 over a neon. But since I can't I will take this neon as far as I can.

I'm not stupid enough to piss off the ws6 with nitrous guys because I know what potential they have. But I would challenge one for fun just to see it run. :D

I dont get pissed if I loose to a v8. I've already surpassed my neon's class of cars by a long shot, thats good enough for me.

navywings22

08-21-2005, 04:23 AM

And on a side note I have gotten clocked at 146mph by a NC highway patrolman with another person in my car.

(My dad is a first sergeant in the highway patrol). He wanted to see what it had so we went out at 5 in the morning just as the sun was coming up and attempted to top it out. It hit 146 just before we passed the other trooper parked on the side of the highway. It pulled a few more mph before it leveled off and we had tolet off. I'de say it hit 149-150mph. I know that sounds "retarded" or "impossible" but its really not. I've had the computer flashed and reprogramed. No speed limiter anymore. It was pretty fun I have to admit. I was surprised when I saw his clocked speed. I thought that was pretty good for a neon...

navywings22

08-21-2005, 04:52 AM

Don't worry. I have timeslips. I talked to my friend back home tonight and he is going to mail my timeslip off on Monday. I should have it by the end of next week.

Plus this setup is just something to play around with. I'm building a motor for it that will blow this setup's doors off. My goal with the new motor all motor is to run low 13's.
On the new nitrous setup I plan to hit low 12's.
Sounds imposible, and it might be, but I will be the one to find out. And if it works, I can imagine all the kodak moments and facial expressions when I hit the track (or street).

But those are pretty tough goals to achieve so I can only hope for the best.

Element

08-21-2005, 05:48 AM

Not ragging or anything, because I appreciate fast cars too.

How're you dealing with the halfshafts at that power level? I can't imagine the stock ones would last long at a decently high RPM launch, especially with drag radials on.

navywings22

08-21-2005, 06:06 AM

I haven't had any problems with them yet. The car has 66k miles on it and has been raced on and off for most of them. I have the same worries but since I'm building a bigger 4-cylinder motor with all forged internals and built top end and everything, I probably wont worry about this "stock" motor and stuff much. If they breakthat just gives me more reason to put my next motor in and beef everything up some more. This setup is simply to play around with right now. If it goes, it goes. I'll move on to bigger and better things ;)

And just to clarify, that 13.3 was on full street trim.
i.e. : full weight from factory and street tires.
I've never run drag radials or slicks.

I just have to feather the launch as good as possible and play catchup.

Element

08-21-2005, 06:16 AM

What do you run without spraying?

navywings22

08-21-2005, 06:38 AM

Best so far all motor was a 14.7
I'm getting that slip with the other one sometime at the end of this week. I'll post them both up

Element

08-21-2005, 07:27 AM

What else do you have done to it?

My little 4 banger is probably good for a 16.8 or so...on a good day.

blue02formula

08-21-2005, 08:32 AM

We all start somewhere, I'm glad your enjoying it. How much will you have in the built up motor?

navywings22

08-21-2005, 10:35 AM

Performance mods:
Iceman intake
60mm throttle body
hand ported intake monifold
aftermarket injectors
fuel regulator
custom tuned computer
MPX udp
mopar performance street header
high flow cat
2.5" exhaust
Weapon R R1 Atom Bomb muffler
8mm performance spark plug wires
Nitrous Express
GenX 2 upgrade
Dual purge
PT clutch

Apperence mods:
clear corners
TYC tailights
17x7 BSA Racing wheels
Factory R/T stripes

Suspension mods:
Dropzone springs
prothane suspension bushings
22mm front & rear sway bar
Front and rear strut tower bars

You can check out the car here:
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/384946/1

How much will you have in the built up motor?

You meen how much money or what will be done to it?

Element

08-21-2005, 03:43 PM

Other than the Altezzas, it looks pretty good. Smoked lights would round it out a lot better.

DKenn08

08-21-2005, 04:05 PM

Originally posted by navywings22
Believe me, I would love to have a ws6 or any small block v8 over a neon. But since I can't I will take this neon as far as I can.

You said you've spent $5,000 on the neon?

If you can mod your neon to the point at which you have then how can you not afford a ls1, mach 1, cobra, or lt1?

navywings22

08-21-2005, 07:06 PM

Other than the Altezzas, it looks pretty good. Smoked lights would round it out a lot better.

Actually those pictures are a couple of months old and I do now have smoked taillights. TYC black inner housing ones. They do round the car off well, and I like them a lot more than the altezzas. I'll see if I can get some updated pics up sometime.

If you can mod your neon to the point at which you have then how can you not afford a ls1, mach 1, cobra, or lt1?

Because I haven't seen a ls1, mach 1, cobra, or lt1 for $5000 yet.
I don't want one thats really old or has a lot of miles or has been ragged out. My dodge neon is a 98 and it only has 66k on it. Thats only an average of 8250 miles a year. Sure I race it occasionally but I take care of it too. I couldn't find one of those cars near that price that was still in good condition. And that $5000 is total... mods and everything.

I would love to own a ls1, cobra, mach 1, or lt1 but I dont want to settle for something in worse condition just because of the price. I'de rather put the money into my neon for now and when the time comes I will buy a brand new or fairly new "higher displacement" car....

And then see what I can do with it...:bwahaha:

But I'm having fun with what I have right now.
Thinking about heading to memphis this week sometime and practicing my launches and 60' times some more...

killer01ws6

08-22-2005, 09:01 PM

stock + lid (put the lid on before I ever saw a track)
13.1 with a horrid 2.2 60' was the best of the day,
as I tried to see how hard I could push her I say a 13.6 and such...:o

Soul TKR

08-22-2005, 11:55 PM

Originally posted by blue02formula
I agree with the suspension due to the springs, sway-bars. The ram-air hood is all show IMO. The night I ran a 13.4 a WS6 was running 13.8 but he may have had a 98-00, or an A4 or just a weight disadvantage or it may have been the blue bird is faster than the black bird rule. :D

It's not show though, besides the fact that it brings in cool air from the outside and it's lighter than the steel regular T/A hood it's got to have some other positive side to it than just it's killer looks :p

Originally posted by smiley
the ram air hood is show - no air gets forced in there at high speed, not enough anyway to do anything. there is actually a thin vacuum over the top of the car.

there was a nice thermodynamics thread that explained it all and had tests.... but it resided on ls1.com which of course is gone now...

if you pressurize your box and do the !baffle mod there have been many different tests to show an increase in power... it's simple science... cool air from outside produces more HP than hot air from the engine bay... what's there to debate?

Originally posted by ButchN
But it still isololates, somewhat, the hot engine air from the cooler air so it's not all show.
Now when you do the BGRA mod & debaffle the hood as I've done, then it's fully functional.

:werd: and double :werd: :stupid:

Originally posted by Chief Pontiac
With a good driver a 2002 WS6 should run low 13's.:drive:

absolutely... it's all about the driver in some cases :yup:

Originally posted by racer88
A GOOD driver can take a bone stock Fbody into the high 12's it's been done many times.

A decent driver will see mid-low 13's........I've seen some run low 14's at my track and that makes me shake my head but some people just haven't done the track enough to figure out how to shift.

Like i said, i think i'm a decent driver and i ran a 13.4 when it was stock... so basically a stock WS.6 you can bet will be somewhere in the 13.0-13.5 range with a good driver...

Originally posted by Phirehawk265
Way to bring the trolls around wes. :mad:

:angel: Who Me? :lol:

Chief Pontiac

08-23-2005, 12:02 AM

As was posted by Soul its not really ram air but its better than underhood hot air.Plus cooler air is denser and that makes more power when mixed with gas.

blue02formula

08-23-2005, 03:10 AM

Well hell yes if you modify it into a cold air system.
IMO the factory ram air set up is more for show than go. Engine compartment heat shouldn't matter on the intake air, that comes from under the front of the car.
I like WS6 cars but I woudn't afford the extra $3000 dollars for it For the 02 model year, you had to get a T/A so that's couple thousand more. That $5000 I would have had in a stock WS6 I put into my current mods, and my car can spank a stock WS6 in handling and straight line performance. :drive:

Soul TKR

08-23-2005, 05:54 PM

Originally posted by blue02formula
Well hell yes if you modify it into a cold air system.
IMO the factory ram air set up is more for show than go. Engine compartment heat shouldn't matter on the intake air, that comes from under the front of the car.
I like WS6 cars but I woudn't afford the extra $3000 dollars for it For the 02 model year, you had to get a T/A so that's couple thousand more. That $5000 I would have had in a stock WS6 I put into my current mods, and my car can spank a stock WS6 in handling and straight line performance. :drive:

your absolutely right, no argument about spending the 5k and making it perform better than a stock WS6. But that's just like anything else out there... it's basically what the import guys say to us... "oh well i did this, and i did that, so i can take your car any day of the week"..... but then of course once we spend the same amount of money on upgrades its a different story...

basically all i'm saying is Stock vs. Stock the WS.6 will perform a tad better than a regular T/A. Nothing extravagant, but if you are comparing numbers and performance you will see a slight gain on the WS.6 side... like i said, anyone can spend money to modify one to beat or out perform another one, but if we are talking stock for stock then it's different...

now, back to the mention about the intake air coming from under the car... there is no intake air coming from under the car... unless you do the Free Ram Air Mod and cut a slit right above your radiator... i don't know if the regular TA's are different or not but i know on mine, there is a plastic plate that blocks off all the air from underneath... the lip spoiler underneath the car is just for catching air and sending it upwards to help cool off your engine, not for the intake... hence the reason for the Free Ram Air Mod...

also, i don't know if you've ever seen an OEM WS.6 hood close up and REALLLLLY looked at the baffles in it but they don't block out the air like some think... all they are are rain baffles and cool air is still able to travel through them quite easily...

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/5362/airinlet8qp.jpg

blue02formula

08-23-2005, 06:56 PM

Cool, no I thought they were blocked from the factory, and yes I take for granted to free ram air I've had it so long. If you look at the stock non-ram air hood and the original gap for air intake by the time you have the hood latch support it's a wonder any air gets through, so that being said stock for stock there should be an increase with the ram air hood. If I was to buy a ram air hood, I would still consider it an appearance mod.

I don't know where the "import guy" statement came from, I don't think I'm that full of shit.

Element

08-23-2005, 07:06 PM

The regular T/As do have the plate blocking the bottom of the intake, as well as the little "shelf" under the filter i the intake itself that has to be cut.

:hmm: Any ideas of where I could get a WS.6 lower airbox? I've checked ebay and nothing came up.

Soul TKR

08-23-2005, 07:33 PM

:lol: :sorry: didn't mean to offend you with the "import guy" statement... it wasn't meant particularly at YOU just people in general... and i don't mean to come off all pissy either, just being informing :sargeant: :lol:

but yea also the air box on the non-WS.6 cars has a smaller gap for air to come through, i've notice it to be a little higher on the WS.6.... but it's definatley an appearance mod as well :firey: :fangs:

blue02formula

08-23-2005, 08:11 PM

Originally posted by Soul TKR
:lol: :sorry: didn't mean to offend you with the "import guy" statement... it wasn't meant particularly at YOU just people in general... and i don't mean to come off all pissy either, just being informing :sargeant: :lol:

but yea also the air box on the non-WS.6 cars has a smaller gap for air to come through, i've notice it to be a little higher on the WS.6.... but it's definatley an appearance mod as well :firey: :fangs:

Damn, now I have to cancel my Formula R decals I ordered. :lol: :type-r:

Yes, the gap is only 3/4 of an inch or so. Actually I think once you go with !FRA you might be better off blocking the front off all together. One thing I do know for sure the !FRA, and the intake lid made a noticable diffrence in SOTP performance, probably the best gain for the money. The 4:11's made the biggest performance gain but that cost some bucks.

navywings22

08-23-2005, 08:52 PM

"it's basically what the import guys say to us... "oh well i did this, and i did that, so i can take your car any day of the week"...."

He probably is talking about me...

But its ok I get that all the time

Soul TKR

08-24-2005, 12:43 AM

Originally posted by blue02formula
Damn, now I have to cancel my Formula R decals I ordered. :lol: :type-r:

Yes, the gap is only 3/4 of an inch or so. Actually I think once you go with !FRA you might be better off blocking the front off all together. One thing I do know for sure the !FRA, and the intake lid made a noticable diffrence in SOTP performance, probably the best gain for the money. The 4:11's made the biggest performance gain but that cost some bucks.

:drool: I bet! i can't wait to get my 12-bolt, heads and cam... :\ many many months/years down the road :sulk:

Originally posted by navywings22
"it's basically what the import guys say to us... "oh well i did this, and i did that, so i can take your car any day of the week"...."

He probably is talking about me...

But its ok I get that all the time

:lol: actually i forgot that you even posted in here! I wasn't talking about you either... but i do get A LOT of the import guys say that kinda stuff to me all the time, that's probably why i stuck the word "import" in there... :shrug:

racer88

08-24-2005, 01:17 AM

Originally posted by Soul TKR

Like i said, i think i'm a decent driver and i ran a 13.4 when it was stock... so basically a stock WS.6 you can bet will be somewhere in the 13.0-13.5 range with a good driver...

Guess I am a good driver shifting to a 13.10 bone stock on a 1.98 60'. :drive:

But an awesome driver like I said can take one into the high 12's. My B/F is an excellent M6 driver, his 99 T/A went 12.99 with a lid only.

navywings22

08-24-2005, 06:37 AM

Well at least mine is still a domestic. Plus I dont say all that stuff like the "import guys" do... I have more sense than that.

racer88

08-24-2005, 06:33 PM

Originally posted by navywings22
Well at least mine is still a domestic. Plus I dont say all that stuff like the "import guys" do... I have more sense than that.

I will give props to the guys who don't shit talk. The SRT owners down this way most of them talk like a bunch of ricers.

I love when alot of guys here compare themselves to a "WS6" which to me is funny it's no different than them running a non WS6 or even a Z28 LOL.

Must be it's intimidating look :D :drive:

blue02formula

08-24-2005, 08:46 PM

Originally posted by racer88

I love when alot of guys here compare themselves to a "WS6" which to me is funny it's no different than them running a non WS6 or even a Z28 LOL.

Must be it's intimidating look :D :drive:

When I had stock exhaust, I was even mistaken for a V6 a couple of times.:D

Mohican

08-24-2005, 11:27 PM

I love when alot of guys here compare themselves to a "WS6" which to me is funny it's no different than them running a non WS6 or even a Z28 LOL.

Must be it's intimidating look :D :drive: [/B][/QUOTE]

A Camaro SS looks like it can kick your ass. A WS6 looks like it's coming to do it!!!! :D

Chief Pontiac

08-25-2005, 12:56 AM

Originally posted by Mohican
I love when alot of guys here compare themselves to a "WS6" which to me is funny it's no different than them running a non WS6 or even a Z28 LOL.

Must be it's intimidating look :D :drive:

A Camaro SS looks like it can kick your ass. A WS6 looks like it's coming to do it!!!! :D [/B][/QUOTE] You got that right Mohican.:drive:

I dont talk shit I let my Trans Am talk for me.Besides trash talk is for men with big egos.:p

racer88

08-25-2005, 01:01 AM

Originally posted by Chief Pontiac

I dont talk shit I let my Trans Am talk for me.Besides trash talk is for men with big egos.:p

Or Women who can back up their shit talk :p :drive:

Chief Pontiac

08-25-2005, 06:24 AM

Originally posted by racer88
Or Women who can back up their shit talk :p :drive: Ya I bet you can. :eek: :cool:

racer88

08-25-2005, 12:57 PM

Originally posted by Chief Pontiac
Ya I bet you can. :eek: :cool:

Just alittle bit ;)

navywings22

08-25-2005, 01:56 PM

I will give props to the guys who don't shit talk. The SRT owners down this way most of them talk like a bunch of ricers.

Beliave me, I have to deal with those idiots too... They think that the only way to make power is to upgrade turbos and up the boost. Yeah... that works for about a month until they blow a rod out the bottom of the block since they spent so much money on turbo upgrades and nothing on building their motors to be able to take it. And some of them even spray on top of that thinking that there is nothing wrong with "throwing" as much power into a stock bottom end as they can. Then, when they do pop a motor half way down the track, they look at me and say :think: "dude, I just dont get it... I've put like $7000 into this thing?!?!? What the hell man...":huh:
Retards...

Now I do know some guys that know what they are doing and are putting some serious, and reliable, numbers down. But most of them are idiots and simply follow they crowd straight to the turbo store. :jump:

And dont get me wrong, I would consider going the turbo route, I know its potential. But there are a lot of other things I would do in the process that they dont even think about.

Anyways, I'm going to check the mail today and hopefully my time slips will be here.... There not the best but I think for a (non-turbo) neon there pretty good.

David

Chief Pontiac

08-25-2005, 03:16 PM

Originally posted by racer88
Just alittle bit ;) :cool:

Mohican

08-27-2005, 02:04 AM

You GO Girl!!!!!!!:D

Mr. Luos

08-27-2005, 08:19 PM

Originally posted by Phirehawk265
:sadnana: 5800. :(
That is just the altitude. Last time I ran the DA was 8200+.
Still got 14.0 at 105.2.

Back to the other topic in this topic. :D

Phirehawk265

08-28-2005, 02:18 AM

Originally posted by Mr. Luos
That is just the altitude. Last time I ran the DA was 8200+.
Still got 14.0 at 105.2.

Back to the other topic in this topic. :D

:werd:

I just don't like to make it seem like I'm making excuses for being slow. :sulk:

navywings22

09-08-2005, 09:04 PM

same here..... but its so easy... :D

Chief Pontiac

09-10-2005, 05:18 AM

Originally posted by Phirehawk265
:werd:

I just don't like to make it seem like I'm making excuses for being slow. :sulk: Hey I had my T/A on a Mustang Dyno and it didnt do great.But friends that have used different one got better #'s.

racer88

09-12-2005, 03:57 AM

I could never live in a high altitude, I'd kill myself to take my car and run mid 13's with all my mods.

Thanks Mohican, you know it!! :cool:

Phirehawk265

09-12-2005, 04:08 AM

Originally posted by Chief Pontiac
Hey I had my T/A on a Mustang Dyno and it didnt do great.But friends that have used different one got better #'s.

Yea but most everyone knows mustang dynos give significantly lower results than dynojet.

I could never live in a high altitude, I'd kill myself to take my car and run mid 13's with all my mods.

It's really not so bad since it effects everyone. :shrug: I guess you just get used to it.

racer88

09-14-2005, 03:44 AM

Originally posted by Phirehawk265

It's really not so bad since it effects everyone. :shrug: I guess you just get used to it.

OH NEVER, my buddy's Dad moved back to Colorado and went 13.2 there with bolt on's but ran 12.1 here in FL with bolt on's and a 6K launch with a 9" rear. I think he's in the upper 12's now with an MTI T1 cam.............that would be mid 11's here.

I'd kill myself. :drive:

Phirehawk265

09-14-2005, 04:51 AM

Originally posted by racer88
OH NEVER, my buddy's Dad moved back to Colorado and went 13.2 there with bolt on's but ran 12.1 here in FL with bolt on's and a 6K launch with a 9" rear. I think he's in the upper 12's now with an MTI T1 cam.............that would be mid 11's here.

I'd kill myself. :drive:

See.. most up here would consider 13.2/upper 12's to be pretty impressive :shrug:

Then again, I've never ran my car at a lower altitude before. I'm sure my thoughts would change if I did run my car at a much lower DA, run low 13's, then come back here back to low 14's. :dunno:

racer88

09-15-2005, 12:28 AM

Originally posted by Phirehawk265
See.. most up here would consider 13.2/upper 12's to be pretty impressive :shrug:

Then again, I've never ran my car at a lower altitude before. I'm sure my thoughts would change if I did run my car at a much lower DA, run low 13's, then come back here back to low 14's. :dunno:

I hear ya, but for the given altitude, if you did come here you'd be freakin out. :drive:

I can't wait for us to go a negative 400 ft or better, that's when I ran my 12.20 in neg 426 ft that night it was awesome.

Now, if I went out and ran in an upper DA of 2000.....I'd probably be running 12.6-12.7 all night if that.