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DJ Red Barron
03-17-2004, 05:32 PM
The following is a memo from GM stating the use of rechargeable air filters may cause transmission shift problems, engine driveability problems & SES Light On problems (throwing codes). It also states these problems will NOT be covered under warranty. Yes, in part of the memo, it states "excessively oiled" filters. But for the most part, it reads any use of this type of filter & these issues won't be covered. I just figured some of you might want to know so you can throw a paper filter in if you take your car in for a problem.


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Subject: A/T Shift, Engine Driveability Concerns or SES Light On as a Result of the Installation of an Aftermarket Reusable, Excessively Oiled Air Filter -- 2004 and Prior Cars and Lt Duty Trucks and 2003-2004 HUMMER H2
Message #: VSS20040056

Corporate Bulletin Number 04-07-30-013 will be available in SI on March 18, 2004.

Automatic Transmission Shift, Engine Driveability Concerns or Service Engine Soon (SES)
Light On as a Result of the Installation of an Aftermarket Reusable, Excessively Oiled Air Filter

Models: 2004 and All Prior Cars and Light Duty Trucks
2003-2004 HUMMER H2

DO THIS
First, Inspect the vehicle for a reusable aftermarket excessively oiled air filter

DON'T DO THIS
DO NOT repair under warranty if concerns result from the use of a reusable aftermarket oiled air filter.

The installation of an aftermarket reusable, oiled air filter may result in:

1. Service Engine Soon (SES) Light On

2. Transmission shift concerns, slipping and damaged clutch(es) or band(s)

3. Engine driveability concerns, poor acceleration from a stop, limited engine RPM range

The oil that is used on these air filter elements may be transferred onto the Mass Air Flow (MAF) sensor causing contamination of the sensor. As a result, the Grams per Second (GPS) signal from the MAF may be low and any or all of the concerns listed above may occur.

When servicing a vehicle with any of these concerns, be sure to check for the presence of an aftermarket reusable, excessively oiled air filter. The MAF, GPS reading should be compared to a like vehicle with a OEM air box and filter under the same driving conditions to verify the concern.

Transmission or engine driveability concerns that are the result of the installation of an aftermarket reusable, excessively oiled air filter are not considered to be warrantable repair items.

Here is a pic of the actual bulletin from GM's internal website.
http://www.superlightning.com/albums/album33/GM_K_N_Bulletin.sized.jpg

Blk00z28
03-17-2004, 06:05 PM
Thats nice to know. How about we send this quote to K&N's main office, and who ever else sales rechargable air filters and see what they say..?

On a side note, you might wanna put this in the gen help section.

Scotty
03-17-2004, 06:17 PM
Originally posted by Blk00z28
Thats nice to know. How about we send this quote to K&N's main office, and who ever else sales rechargable air filters and see what they say..?

On a side note, you might wanna put this in the gen help section.
Good idea. I know many people who have the FRA mod use those filters.

MeentSS02
03-17-2004, 07:07 PM
Put this where all can see...it was info like this about a year ago that prompted me to keep using paper filters and not jump on the retarded K&N bandwagon. I would never recommend one to anyone that I know.

Blk00z28
03-17-2004, 07:33 PM
Ya, I have the fra, and I was having problems with detonation, and I switched to the paper Fram, and cleand my maf, it hasnt came back in almost 2 months now! So I can see it being for real!

Oh5S4
03-17-2004, 08:15 PM
Originally posted by Blk00z28
Ya, I have the fra, and I was having problems with detonation, and I switched to the paper Fram, and cleand my maf, it hasnt came back in almost 2 months now! So I can see it being for real!


Really? Damn...I should try this.

MeentSS02
03-17-2004, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by SStage1
Really? Damn...I should try this.

It is a good place to start, that's for sure. It has been known to happen, but is often overlooked because of all the hype K&N has given to the public. Damn their advertising campaign is good...half the world believes they actually give you an increase in HP.

TwoFast4Lv
03-18-2004, 07:30 AM
worst part? Them sell them as an Option at the dealer!!!

The filters are perfect IF used properly ;)

I am running a GM version now!

Blk00z28
03-18-2004, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by TwoFast4Lv
worst part? Them sell them as an Option at the dealer!!!

The filters are perfect IF used properly ;)

I am running a GM version now!
How do you mean by properly? Mine was getting old, but I cleaned it every oil change with the k&n stuff..:confused:

MeentSS02
03-18-2004, 06:51 PM
Originally posted by Blk00z28
How do you mean by properly? Mine was getting old, but I cleaned it every oil change with the k&n stuff..:confused:

As in not dousing the filter in oil and slapping it right in, which I'm sure some people have done.

Mark
04-06-2004, 06:56 PM
yea, you have to use them right. I will clean, lightly oil, let set for 20 min. then wipe metal screen with paper towel. Only fibers should be uniformly oiled.

kasim
04-21-2004, 04:49 AM
are they better to use if u follow the instructions?

DamnWS6
04-21-2004, 04:51 AM
fuck k&N!










:wall:

262 77
04-21-2004, 05:08 AM
Yup, got rid of K&N two years ago and replace it with Fram paper filter.:)