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DebianDog
02-17-2004, 04:13 PM
After being "yelled at" at a few times and obvious issues with fuel on the dyno (they did not have a WB :rolleyes: I am thinking about putting a bung and wideband in my cutout.
My thought being that the wideband sensor will last longer since it will only have to take readings and get superheated during tuning sessions or at the track. I suppose I would run a bit rich the rest of the time due to backpressure:confused:
Comments
I also have USB EFIlive, so integration with that would be a great :help: (I have not got an answer on the EFIlive forums yet)
Thanks
JandJsTA
02-17-2004, 05:32 PM
Originally posted by DebianDog
After being "yelled at" at a few times and obvious issues with fuel on the dyno (they did not have a WB :rolleyes: I am thinking about putting a bung and wideband in my cutout.
My thought being that the wideband sensor will last longer since it will only have to take readings and get superheated during tuning sessions or at the track. I suppose I would run a bit rich the rest of the time due to backpressure:confused:
Comments
I also have USB EFIlive, so integration with that would be a great :help: (I have not got an answer on the EFIlive forums yet)
Thanks
Not a bad idea.... I have no experience myself but have read lots of arcticles on putting a sensor in ... but up at the top between the head and collectors and I was always concerned about first getting in there to do it and second getting a quality job done so the bung wouldn't leak or just generally corrode away, but putting it in the cutout, or even in the Y may be a damn good idea, plug it when you are not using it, as long as you can get the cabling to reach :)
drptopz
02-17-2004, 11:24 PM
There is a nice wideband O2 setup just offered that uses the same O2 sensor as my Motec. Check it out at http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/
Dave
DynoTune, Inc
www.dynotune.com
DebianDog
02-17-2004, 11:33 PM
Thanks drptopz, the EFIlive guys did get back with me and said they would also (probably) be supporting this wideband since people seem to be snatching them up.
O.K. Now what is the best way to run the wire out of the car?
JandJsTA
02-18-2004, 12:51 AM
Originally posted by DebianDog
Thanks drptopz, the EFIlive guys did get back with me and said they would also (probably) be suppoerting this wideband since people seem to be snatching them up.
O.K. Now what is the best way to run the wire out of the car?
The sensor cable on the web page is 10ft long so anyway you like .... there may be a rubber plug in the firewall like a lot of vehicles have.... I haven't had the carpet back so I'm not sure ... and if not I usually find a convenient spot on the firewall under the rug that's easy to reach from in and outside and drill a hole big enough to feed the cable :)
DebianDog
02-18-2004, 07:36 PM
Originally posted by drptopz
There is a nice wideband O2 setup just offered that uses the same O2 sensor as my Motec. Check it out at http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/
Dave
DynoTune, Inc
www.dynotune.com
Welp just placed my order! There goes another $350 :rolleyes:
drptopz
02-18-2004, 08:06 PM
Let me know how you like it, I haven't had the chance to play with one yet.
Dave
DynoTune, Inc
www.dynotune.com
JandJsTA
02-18-2004, 09:57 PM
Originally posted by DebianDog
Welp just placed my order! There goes another $350 :rolleyes:
Super ..... we will be awaiting your product analysis once you get it hooked up and some sample data logged :)
DebianDog
02-19-2004, 09:38 AM
Originally posted by JandJsTA
Super ..... we will be awaiting your product analysis once you get it hooked up and some sample data logged :)
Will do :thumbup:
2000 Tran Zam
02-21-2004, 05:16 PM
so whens it gonna be here?
GoingtoArgen
02-21-2004, 08:12 PM
I have an Innovate and I like it. Only prob is, the stock 02 hole is too close to the cat, and it creates an error after 15-20 minutes(because of heat).
They told me this would not happen. Klaus told me this, actually, and he the master genius there.
I got enough info in the 20 minutes to make the purchase worth it.
You can weld the supplied bung inot the pipe though, to avoid this problem.
DebianDog
02-22-2004, 02:32 AM
Originally posted by 2000 Tran Zam
so whens it gonna be here?
Ship date
Feb 20, 2004
Estimated delivery date
Feb 24, 2004 by 4:30 pm
I spoke with them too about placement and they told me to put it at the end of the Y too. If I was feeling real sporty, they said a lot of folks are usuing them in place of their "real" O2's having the unit send the info to the PCM instead. I dunno about that...
smiley
02-22-2004, 04:34 AM
i thought i saw a blurb in the latest gmhp magazine about them adding a wide band o2 sensor. i did not read the article - so if anyone has it..... please post up if it was worth reading. i vaguely remember a pic showing them puttting between the cat and stock o2 sensor? :dunno:
drptopz
02-22-2004, 04:48 AM
According to the instructions that came with my Motec setup (http://www.motec.com/products/plm/plm.htm) , they recommend approx 30 inches from the combustion chamber, and parallel with the ground.
We have found that just after the collector on long tube headers seem to be about right.
I have also tested before vs. after cat. converter, and it DOES effect the readings. Unfort. on some cars, with cats, you cannot avoid putting it after the cat.
Since the innovative unit uses the same O2 sensor as my Motec, I would guess that the same guidlines would apply.
Dave
DynoTune, Inc
www.dynotune.com
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