Honest opinion on nitrous?

[WildBill WS6/SS]

How safe is nitrous honestly? If I get a 100 shot how serious is it? What will I risk breaking or damaging? Im sure a 100 shot will put me into the 10's. What other safety devises do 10 sec cars have to have besides roll cage?

[GOT SPD]

Need some more info, like what is your current setup, what tuning have you had done, and what type of nitrous system are you going to run, wet or dry?

Nitrous is your freind if you respect it. I would definatly suggest paying a little extre to get the safty equipment, like a rpm switch and even a fpss if you want. The porblem a lot of people have is they run a lot of bottle but don't pay any attention to the heat range of the plugs or to making sure they have the right gapping. Nor do they make sure they have the tune to support nitrous.

if you are running a Heads/ cam setup and are making about 400ish a 100 wet shot would casue you little to no problems and you will see a nice gain at the track. Going with a dry kit you want to be careful that you are not maxing out the injectors. That is why running it on a dyno with a a/f meter is a must to make sure you have a safe setup.

If you are responsible with the nitrous and make sure you are have the nitrous come on at 3000rpm and shutting off about 6400-6500 you can get many years of enjoyment out of it without causing any damage. And whenever you run the nitrous listen to your car, if you hear detonation or sounds that aren't normal turn the bottle off immediatly, detonation can kill a motor.

Take some time to read the tech documents at the top of this forum as they will answer almost all of the questions you might have.

[jaywoo]

A 100 shot done right is fine. Window switch, WOT switch. I'd go with a wet shot. And with your setup, it's no guarantee it will get you in the 10s, ut it'll get you pretty darn close.

[WildBill WS6/SS]

Originally posted by GOT SPD
Need some more info, like what is your current setup, what tuning have you had done, and what type of nitrous system are you going to run, wet or dry?

Nitrous is your freind if you respect it. I would definatly suggest paying a little extre to get the safty equipment, like a rpm switch and even a fpss if you want. The porblem a lot of people have is they run a lot of bottle but don't pay any attention to the heat range of the plugs or to making sure they have the right gapping. Nor do they make sure they have the tune to support nitrous.

if you are running a Heads/ cam setup and are making about 400ish a 100 wet shot would casue you little to no problems and you will see a nice gain at the track. Going with a dry kit you want to be careful that you are not maxing out the injectors. That is why running it on a dyno with a a/f meter is a must to make sure you have a safe setup.

If you are responsible with the nitrous and make sure you are have the nitrous come on at 3000rpm and shutting off about 6400-6500 you can get many years of enjoyment out of it without causing any damage. And whenever you run the nitrous listen to your car, if you hear detonation or sounds that aren't normal turn the bottle off immediatly, detonation can kill a motor.

Take some time to read the tech documents at the top of this forum as they will answer almost all of the questions you might have.
thanks

[Black02SS]

Thats what we are here for. :D

[GOT SPD]

Originally posted by Black02SS
Thats what we are here for. :D


:yup:

[DebianDog]

Originally posted by WildBill WS6
How safe is nitrous honestly? If I get a 100 shot how serious is it? What will I risk breaking or damaging? Im sure a 100 shot will put me into the 10's. What other safety devises do 10 sec cars have to have besides roll cage?

100 shot with your setup...11.2 ish if i was to guess. Now a 150 shot maybe 10's

[94Formula/Dustin]

I run 12.90@107.7 N/A and on a N/X 100 wet.

11.67@119 so I think with a 125-150 you will be there.

Just my o2

Dustin:D

[Dragracer1971]

Dustin that's a good pick up with a 100 shot, what kit are u using?

[Eugenio_SS]

there is lots of misconsceptions about nitrous.
Weird enough, whenever mentionning nitrous, people tend to think KABOOM... but not the case for Turbos or superchargers.
Nitrous works in a similar way.

Turbos and SuperChargers add more air into the intake, by spooling air either by exhaust gases (turbo) or belt-driven (supercharger).
The extra air is perceived by the PCM and he makes the injectors add more fuel so that the A/F (air-fuel ratio) is good... and since there is more fuel, that translates into more power.

So, nitrous, is similar.
The simplest kit is dry... the nitrous is sprayed in the air-lid and goes through the MAF (he reads the O2 level and temperature of air and tell the computer who decides how much fuel needed).
In this case, it works pretty much like the Turbo or Supercharger, except the extra air is not being spooled, but coming from a compressed container... yet, the extra fuel is also delivered through the injectors not to worry about Kaboom... if nitrous run out, then you running the engine as normally.
Now, if you go with a wet kit, nitrous and fuel added after the MAF, so that the fuel is not added via injectors.
Both are added via nozzles and their sizes are adjustable so that you have proper A/F ratios.

The whole point is to have it installed with safety features and having it dynoed while monitoring the A/F ratios... similarly, people running turbos need some safety features such as a blow-off valve, and you still want to monitor it on the dyno.

Hope this helps.

[1rawTA]

so is the dry shot safer? i know if you run a dry shot you dont have to get a bottle heater, and some other little things.
i wanna do a dry shot either a 75 or 100, with a window switch. do you think that is a very safe setup?

[Eugenio_SS]

it's a very safe setup... but there is no reason to believe that a dry or wet is safer over the other.
Both systems end up adding nitrous and fuel to the equation... dry and wet, just have a different approach of doing so.

The advantage of the dry, as you mentionned, is that the nitrous pressure is not as critical as in a wet kit.
With lower pressures, the gains are just lower... but having a dry kit, the MAF will auto-compensate for that "loss" in nitrous.
A wet kit, in the other hand, will jet a specific amount of fuel, which was calibrated at a given pressure. If pressure goes down, there is more fuel than nitrous for ideal situation... so the engine will run a bit rich. There is no danger, but the gains aren't optimal if the pressure is not constant... that's why the heater is pretty much a "must" on a wet-kit.

I would still get a heater for the dry, even if not as crucial, but you get more for the nitrous.
A 100 dry-shot is very safe to run on a stock setup.
Looking at your signature, you are already finishing the 1/4 mile @ 115 mph... so adding a 100 shot, will put you over the 120mph.
We would be talking 450 rwhp... and given the fact you have a 2000, your injectors are gonna be limited before you reach that point... with the NOS5177 I had on my car, I was limited by my injectors just a bit over 400 rwhp... I have a 2000 as well.
Now, given the fact that you would need to upgrade the injectors, I would just go for a wet kit.

[94Formula/Dustin]

Originally posted by Dragracer1971
Dustin that's a good pick up with a 100 shot, what kit are u using?

N/X Wet kit with a 228-236 /571-114ls Cam.

I can not wait to put on a set of longtubes and some ported heads.:eek:

[Dragracer1971]

This is the single NX shark nozzle right?

[94Formula/Dustin]

Originally posted by Dragracer1971
This is the single NX shark nozzle right?

Yes!!

Single nozzle with 52/33 pills inside. "100 shot LT1"

Dustin

[Dragracer1971]

Originally posted by 94Formula/Dustin
Yes!!

Single nozzle with 52/33 pills inside. "100 shot LT1"

Dustin


Nice choice of nozzles, i use 8 of em....;)

What is ur FFP and AFR?

[SSpray]

If you run a wet kit, chances are you will soon step up to 150 or 175...maybe higher.
A dry kit just gives you one more reason to keep is closer to 100.

:lol: I'll only spray a 100 shot ;) I know how that goes.

[Mistacamawo]

so do you guys think a 125 n/x wet kit is pretty perfect or what? It seems like a lot of you guys have those, and I've been thinking about getting one. So far all I have is a 224/224 114 cam and I'm going to be getting either macs or lts.

[GOT SPD]

Originally posted by Mistacamawo
so do you guys think a 125 n/x wet kit is pretty perfect or what? It seems like a lot of you guys have those, and I've been thinking about getting one. So far all I have is a 224/224 114 cam and I'm going to be getting either macs or lts.


I would suggest Lt's if you can afford them and once those are on a 125 NX shot would put a big smile on your face. :D