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69stanger
09-01-2004, 08:56 PM
hope this hasnt been posted before

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A vulgar plastic pram ? I love it
By Jeremy Clarkson of The Sunday Times
CORVETTE C6


There is a great deal in the news these days about the forthcoming election in America, in which an incoherent man with eyes that are suspiciously close together is up against a man with an enormous chin. Why? We aren?t treated to daily updates from the elections in Lesser Micronesia, or Holland, so why are we inundated with every last utterance from these super-buffoons?

A cynic might say that the newspapers and television stations maintain permanent offices in America and need to keep the staff employed with something. A more rational person would explain that this is more than a national election. It?s a plebiscite to decide who becomes leader of the free world.

Okay, well if this is the case: if he really will be my leader, why can?t I have a vote? Why should I leave the choice to a bunch of tobacco-chewing backwoodsmen who aren?t even bright enough to mark the voting papers properly?

I mean it. If the president of the United States really does think he?s the leader of the free world, then the free world should have a say in who gets the job. That?s me, you, every Indian, every Russian, every German. And yes, every Iraqi too. All of us.

But no; our fate is in the hands of a people whose IQ is generally smaller than their waistbands. A people who?ve trawled their 263m citizens and come up with Bush and super-chin as the alternatives. A people whose soldiers wear sunglasses while trying to defuse trouble on the streets of Baghdad. You?re not Jean-Claude Van Damme, you idiots. Take them off. Let them see your eyes. Or are you like the president? Do you only have one?

As a sort of protest about everything, but the sunglasses thing most of all, my wife recently decided to purge everything American from the house.

At first, I suspected this would be a long and painful task that would send us back to the Dark Ages, but do you know what? Most of the electrical equipment is from Japan, or Germany. The furniture is largely Italian or British. And pretty well everything else was made in China.

All I could find that bore the legend ?Made in America? was my toothbrush, which makes you wonder what they?re all doing over there, apart from cleaning their teeth.

Computer software seems to be the answer. Because so far as I can tell, my laptop?s brain is just about the only American-made household product that I simply couldn?t do without.

Out in the drive, however, it?s a different story. We have a Ford Focus, which is American, a Volvo XC90, which is American, and next March I will take delivery of a Ford GT, which has a British steering rack, a British gearbox and Italian brakes. But I know I?m fooling myself. That?s American too. And so is the subject of this week?s column. The new Corvette C6.

It?s billed, like all previous Vettes, as a sports car to rival the best from Europe, and I hope you don?t mind if I s****** politely at this point.
America has never really made a sports car, because while we were hanging it out to dry on Welsh moorland roads, or Alpine passes, they were racing between the lights on Telegraph Road. And for that, you don?t need a pin-sharp turn-in. You need muscle.

And that, contrary to what you may have been told, is what the Vette?s always been about: it?s a car so pumped up on steroids, it would be unable to make a drugs test without falling off its motorcycle. It?s a car with arms like Schwarzenegger but a penis like a shrivelled-up little acorn.

I once span an early incarnation of the previous Corvette off the road while charging round the only bend in Arizona. But no ticket was forthcoming from the attending police officer because, in his words, ?these things spin so damn easy, you could park one outside a store, and when you came out it?d be facing the other way?.

People were, nevertheless, fooled into thinking the Vette was a sports car because it?s made from plastic in Kentucky, far from the powerhouse muscle pumping station that is Detroit. And what?s more, because it has always been fitted with massive tyres and no discernable suspension, it has always had a surfeit of grip. I think I?m right in saying the late 1980s Vette was the first road car ever to generate 1g in a bend.

But really, the car?s major appeal has always been respectable go from its massive V8 engine, and jaw-dropping looks. The 1960s Stingray is one of the world?s truly ground-breaking pieces of car design. As much of a jaw-dropper as the Lamborghini Countach.

And so we arrive at the C6, expecting more of the same. It?s still plastic. It?s still made in Kentucky. It still has the big V8. And ? stop laughing at the back ? it still comes with exactly the same sort of suspension that you get on a Silvercross pram. Yup. It has leaf springs, which means it still rides like it?s running on wooden tyres.

Of course, 14th-century suspension has no bearing in the way the car goes. What does have a bearing is the gearbox.

Put your foot down and after a hint of wheelspin ? and with tyres the width of a tennis court, it is only a hint ? the bruiser launches off the line with what might fairly be termed much gusto. And then, at around 30, everything goes horribly wrong because you have to select second.

There are levers at the National Coal Mining Museum that move with more smoothness than the gearshifter in a C6 Vette. To get second from third, you really need a second elbow.

Happily, you?re distracted from this most of the time by the HUD. I?m not joking. This car has a head-up display, just like you get in an F-16 fighter.

It?s fantastic. Whole bus queues are hidden behind the digital speed read-out, which is going to make for some wonderful insurance claims. ?The old lady was behind my rev counter so I never saw here until she?d already bounced over the roof.?
There is lots of other good stuff too. It is very, very fast, it makes a wonderful muted roar when you floor it and even I have to admit that it?s eye-poppingly pretty.

So, you might be thinking, it?s just the same as all the other Vettes. But hang on a minute because it?s 5in shorter than the previous model, and thanks to lots of aluminium under the plastic body, it?s lighter too. Can you believe that? As European cars, which are supposed to be sporty, get heavier and heavier, the car from the Land of the Stomach, is actually losing weight.

In fact, the new Corvette weighs 128kg less than a BMW M3, and this shows. I had a few laps of the Top Gear test track in an example with tyres that had been modelled on Kojak?s head and, whisper this, I loved it. Yes, the gearbox was a serious nuisance and it didn?t have quite the subtlety of a Porsche or a Beemer. It squirmed quite a bit under braking, for instance. But the steering was sharp, the grip was mighty and the speed was always intoxicating.

This gave me a problem when I climbed out and gave the keys back to the man from Chevrolet.

?What did you think?? he asked. ?Oh,? I scoffed. ?Left-hand drive, vulgar plastic rubbish.?

But actually it isn?t. It is an extremely likeable car and you can easily forget the railway junction gearbox and the jiggly ride and the cigarette-paper quality when you examine the price tag. It?s likely to be about £45,000.

So there we are. The only thing that would stop me buying one is my wife. But since you?re not married to her, I?d go right ahead.

VITAL STATISTICS

Model: Corvette C6
Engine type: V8, 5970cc
Power: 400bhp @ 6000rpm
Torque: 400 lb ft @ 4400rpm
Transmission: Six-speed manual
Fuel economy: 23mpg (combined)
Acceleration: 0-60mph: 4.1sec
Top speed: 180mph
Tyres: (Front) 245/40 ZR18 (Rear) 285/35 ZR19
Price: Chevrolet is expected to import left-hand-drive versions into Britain at around £45,000 but this has yet to be officially confirmed. US price $44,000 (pre-tax)
Verdict: Nineteenth-century gearbox aside, Kentucky can be proud
Rating: 4 out of 5 stars
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426HEMI
09-01-2004, 09:10 PM
:wtf: He tears it and anything American apart in his review, then says he loves it? What a fucking loser. Sounds to me that he loves the car but hates America so much he can't show it.

The brits are just mad cause they can't go outside to smoke, they have to "go blow a fag". Hell I'd be grumpy too.

slurredspeech609
09-01-2004, 09:13 PM
WTF is with the whole America bashing section in the opening of that? Then he bashes our troops for wearing sunglasses in the desert. Fuck that guy.

TPX18
09-01-2004, 09:17 PM
Originally posted by slurredspeech609
Fuck that guy.
:werd:
Douchebag :squintfu:

SilverTransAm
09-01-2004, 09:21 PM
what annoyed me the most was the question marks in place of every punctuation mark.

and that guys is a douche. i had to scroll down to the bottom just to make sure it was really about the corvette :rolleyes:

MT Wallet
09-01-2004, 09:23 PM
It is unfortunate we give this moron more attention by actually ready his drivel

:(

If I saw him in a bar... I'd be giving him the :squint:

StealthZ06
09-01-2004, 09:25 PM
He's got sand in his vagina because it takes a $110,000 Porsche Turbo (even more in England) to beat the C6.

TPX18
09-01-2004, 09:26 PM
Originally posted by MT Wallet
It is unfortunate we give this moron more attention by actually ready his drivel

:(

If I saw him in a bar... I'd be giving him the :squint:

I don't think you, or I, or most of the guys on here hang out at the same kinda bars that guy probably hangs out at.

Fallacy
09-01-2004, 09:31 PM
Wonder if they got a shit ass gearbox in that C6, the C5's was fairly smooth and I thought it uses the same thing?

Maxime
09-01-2004, 09:33 PM
hahahahaha that was hilarious.

:D

StealthZ06
09-01-2004, 09:33 PM
What a bloody wanker.

roSSco
09-01-2004, 10:07 PM
:rolleyes: He's jealous ;)

SehlraC
09-01-2004, 10:43 PM
Little known fact about England:

It sucks!

ill deuce
09-01-2004, 10:46 PM
wow,its hard to shift to second:rolleyes: ,pull straight back

Tannim
09-01-2004, 11:26 PM
NO NO NO

Second is diagonal to the left. 3rd is on the far bottom right, 4th in the center, but shares the same gate as 1. To get to five, you have to press the clutch twice, push down and to the left. 6th gear requires pressing the button on the keyless entry FOB.


HONEST!!

Richard De Jonsano
09-02-2004, 12:06 AM
And I thought the guys at Road & Track were pricks.

Borla
09-02-2004, 12:55 AM
Moved to the LS2 Forum. :cool:

Maxime
09-02-2004, 12:59 AM
Oh come on guys. His attitude is not worst then yours when you talk about brits or frenchs. He is using typical american stereotypes and he makes fun of the freedom fries. That article is hilarious. If you are not american. :D

For god sake some of you still think frenchs do not take showers and french women do not shave their arm pits. ;)

Even worst many of you guys really think you could take on the french army with the guns you have in your basement.

;) :D

TPX18
09-02-2004, 02:50 AM
Originally posted by Maxime
Even worst many of you guys really think you could take on the french army with the guns you have in your basement.


The French have an army? :think:

Chief Pontiac
09-02-2004, 03:17 AM
He is a ass pure and simple.

Maxime
09-02-2004, 03:37 AM
Originally posted by TPX18
The French have an army? :think:

See what I mean. :D

Chief Pontiac
09-02-2004, 04:54 AM
He also doesnt know shit about cars.:mad:

Johnny_Pappis
09-03-2004, 09:21 PM
he dosent understand the concept of a good car if it hit him in the face and as for the french we might think we can take on there army with the guns in our basements and u know what i dont know if we would get the chance because they would surrender to a poodle im not saying that all frech people are bad just comon histroy proves the fact the french constanly get overrun and get there asses handed to them as for the brittish they know they cant beat our corvette for the price and comon he said he would buy one they just all have a setiment about us over there (trust me) ive had a g/f from europe i introduced her to amrica nsports cars and she feel in love with them they can resist a v8.....and anyone that can simply hasent had the pleasure of driving one man gotta love those v8's and the new corvettre is one the finest amarican mechines built today......now we just need the camaro back:drive: :cool: :D

Chief Pontiac
09-04-2004, 06:15 AM
Originally posted by Johnny_Pappis
he dosent understand the concept of a good car if it hit him in the face and as for the french we might think we can take on there army with the guns in our basements and u know what i dont know if we would get the chance because they would surrender to a poodle im not saying that all frech people are bad just comon histroy proves the fact the french constanly get overrun and get there asses handed to them as for the brittish they know they cant beat our corvette for the price and comon he said he would buy one they just all have a setiment about us over there (trust me) ive had a g/f from europe i introduced her to amrica nsports cars and she feel in love with them they can resist a v8.....and anyone that can simply hasent had the pleasure of driving one man gotta love those v8's and the new corvettre is one the finest amarican mechines built today......now we just need the camaro back:drive: :cool: :D Well said Johnny.:)

BeachZ
10-07-2004, 12:27 AM
I had some work associates from England come stay with me when I lived in Idaho. They were aghast that anyone in America could buy a gun. Then they asked me if I had one, so I pulled out my Walther PPK, .357 Magnum, Marlin 30-30 and Weatherby .300 Magnum, and these guys about shit a brick.

The next day, we all went down to Twin Falls, Idaho, and they bought (using my driver's license):

A Beretta .9mm
A Winchester riot shotgun
A Remington .270

and 10,000 rounds of ammunition. :D

DarkPhoenix
10-07-2004, 12:55 AM
That dude is on drugs.
Special note to Jeremy Clarkson, "It's NOT ok to be gay!!"

PS: I saw a new C6 out on the road yesterday, looked pretty sweet, but a good bit smaller than the C5. Narrower and shorter, but still a bad ass looking car. Would be a woman driving it too.

ozemuscle1
10-30-2004, 03:12 PM
the only reason he bags american cars, is because he is fortunate enough to drive european cars. which are quite obviously better. which is why they cost so much. which is also why he always calls them good value for money. american cars are infamous for the not too flash interior quality, and overall refinement, but also famous for their brilliant wow factor, and sheer muscle.

Sinner
11-14-2004, 04:54 AM
Originally posted by Maxime


Even worst many of you guys really think you could take on the french army with the guns you have in your basement.

;) :D


With the leaking subs, jets that crash on takeoff, 40yo helicopters that fall off of ships and our "Rangers" (psst....they're just eskimos with WW2 rifles), you could take on Canada with the guns found on one block in Compton. This being the case, on behalf of Canada I'm prepared to offer water and power for some guns 'n shit. Maybe a nuke to help Quebec "seperate".

My name is Joe....And I am Canadian.

McBane
12-10-2004, 01:27 AM
Originally posted by 426Hemi
:wtf: He tears it and anything American apart in his review, then says he loves it? What a fucking loser. Sounds to me that he loves the car but hates America so much he can't show it.

The brits are just mad cause they can't go outside to smoke, they have to "go blow a fag". Hell I'd be grumpy too.

Haha no shyt

jasonc32amg
12-29-2004, 06:26 PM
Originally posted by Maxime
See what I mean. :D

The French maintain an army in case that get another opportunity to surrender or collaborate with Nazi's :D

TurboSix
02-04-2005, 04:45 AM
Originally posted by Sinner
With the leaking subs, jets that crash on takeoff, 40yo helicopters that fall off of ships and our "Rangers" (psst....they're just eskimos with WW2 rifles), you could take on Canada with the guns found on one block in Compton. This being the case, on behalf of Canada I'm prepared to offer water and power for some guns 'n shit. Maybe a nuke to help Quebec "seperate".

My name is Joe....And I am Canadian.

:lol: :Owned:

MapleRed
02-08-2005, 04:10 PM
He spends more time bashing America then he does reviewing the car. :jerkit:

BurnsRubber
02-11-2005, 11:29 PM
Jeremy Clarkson Article on the C6 vette

Change title to

Jeremy Clarkson bashes the United States and talks about the new corvette.

jmd
02-12-2005, 07:55 PM
Originally posted by 69Muscle
Wonder if they got a shit ass gearbox in that C6, the C5's was fairly smooth and I thought it uses the same thing?

It does use the T56 transaxle setup also.